The End Of The ACC As We Know It Is In Sight (And I Feel Fine)

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Put me down as someone who much more prefers to be in the SEC than the Big 10 if push comes to shove, but also someone who would be way, way more fine with being in the Big 10 than being in the ACC. While I’d enjoy UNC playing games against the Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Tennessee, Florida, Ole Miss’s, and Georgia’s of the world, I would still get a lot of enjoyment out of playing the Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon, UCLA, and Nebraska’s of the world. Some of the October and November road trip to the Midwest might be frigid, though!

My biggest concern with being in the Big Ten would be for Carolina baseball. College baseball might just be my favorite sport anymore with all of the insanity overtaking men’s basketball and football. I would much, much, much more prefer UNC to be in the SEC from that standpoint.
 
CFordUNC said:
Put me down as someone who much more prefers to be in the SEC than the Big 10 if push comes to shove, but also someone who would be way, way more fine with being in the Big 10 than being in the ACC. While I’d enjoy UNC playing games against the Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Tennessee, Florida, Ole Miss’s, and Georgia’s of the world, I would still get a lot of enjoyment out of playing the Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon, UCLA, and Nebraska’s of the world. Some of the October and November road trip to the Midwest might be frigid, though!

My biggest concern with being in the Big Ten would be for Carolina baseball. College baseball might just be my favorite sport anymore with all of the insanity overtaking men’s basketball and football. I would much, much, much more prefer UNC to be in the SEC from that standpoint.
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Do we really want to play basketball against Penn State, Ohio State and Nebraska, though? I know the SEC has some clunkers, but it is a better conference overall in basketball, football and baseball
 
Carolina Fever said:
Do we really want to play basketball against Penn State, Ohio State and Nebraska, though? I know the SEC has some clunkers, but it is a better conference overall in basketball, football and baseball
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Oh yeah, I definitely agree that the SEC is much more preferable in all three sports. I just mean that if for some reason we wind up in the Big Ten, I’ll still see it as a pretty massive victory for Carolina athletics considering the nearly limitless amount of money we will have access to and at least a solid handful of strong opponents.
 
farce© said:
That’s like saying I’d rather see Ohio State, Michigan, Penn St and Wisconsin than Miss St, Vandy, Arkansas and Mizzou
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Ok, to simplify it for you, I’d rather see

Bama than osu
Georgia than oregon
Florida than penn St
Tenn than Wisconsin
LSU than USC
Texas than iowa
Vandy than northwestern
Auburn than Purdue

Getting the picture?
 
superrific said:
You realize how absurd that is, right? We played OU in the 89 tourney. Back when they in the Big 8 and we were in the ACC. The Big 8 made sense as a conference. The ACC made sense as a conference. If we are playing OU in a conference game, then conferences mean nothing. Why not just go to a single national league, if we're going to do this.

I mean, I'm not swiping at you at all. You're not making the decision, and I don't blame you for being excited. I'm just saying, why do they have to break everything just because football.
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The national league is coming. By 2031 we very well could have the CFP national league, with the Big10 division and the SEC division. All other schools will be playing for the lower-level title.
 
Calheel said:
The national league is coming. By 2031 we very well could have the CFP national league, with the Big10 division and the SEC division. All other schools will be playing for the lower-level title.
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Whatever league is lower than the lower level one is the one that I hope NC State ends up in.
 
superrific said:
If so, I will probably lose interest in UNC sports except for the occasional lookin. Kind of like how I'm a Rams fan. I don't really follow the NFL at all but I'll watch them when they are in the Super Bowl or conference championship game. I look at the standings from time to time and am pleased when the Rams are at the top, but here are the players on the team I can name: Stafford, Kupp, Puka, the RB what's his name Williams, Aaron Donald (now retired). They have that great rookie DE this past year. Don't recall his name.

Maybe the opinions of people like me don't matter here. Maybe we're too small in number, and anyway it's not as if I donate to the athletic department. But I can't be the only one who will lose interest in college sports if it becomes nothing more than a bad minor league.
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Get off my lawn!

Gotta keep up with the times Super. Major college sports have been professionalized for the last 50 years -- it is just largely above the table now. The US is getting more in line with the European model. At some point, the athletic departments may be sold off by schools to private investors, with a lease of the IP and facilities.
 
Callatoroy said:
Ok, to simplify it for you, I’d rather see

Bama than osu
Georgia than oregon
Florida than penn St
Tenn than Wisconsin
LSU than USC
Texas than iowa
Vandy than northwestern
Auburn than Purdue

Getting the picture?
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Morgan Freeman Reaction GIF by MOODMAN

although I wouldn't mind playing Penn St
 
To the SEC:
Florida State
Miami
Clempson
Virginia Tech
SMU
Louisville

To the B1G Ten (AAU schools):
UNC
Duke
UVa
Georgia Tech
Stanford
California

Notre Dame: Independent

To a Reconfigured Big East:
NC State
Boston College
Pittsburgh
Syracuse
Wake Forest
 
Calheel said:
Get off my lawn!

Gotta keep up with the times Super. Major college sports have been professionalized for the last 50 years -- it is just largely above the table now. The US is getting more in line with the European model. At some point, the athletic departments may be sold off by schools to private investors, with a lease of the IP and facilities.
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It's an entertainment product. Appearances are important.

It's not the players getting paid that bothers me. It's the roster turnover and the demise of conferences.
 
Calheel said:
The national league is coming. By 2031 we very well could have the CFP national league, with the Big10 division and the SEC division. All other schools will be playing for the lower-level title.
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My dream of the "national league" is 48 teams in 6 8-team divisions. Every division champ makes the playoff and then you add some number of at-large teams to create the playoffs.

But every other sport is played in small regional conferences of 8 or so teams.
 
Duke Mu said:
To the SEC:
Florida State
Miami
Clempson
Virginia Tech
SMU
Louisville

To the B1G Ten (AAU schools):
UNC
Duke
UVa
Georgia Tech
Stanford
California

Notre Dame: Independent

To a Reconfigured Big East:
NC State
Boston College
Pittsburgh
Syracuse
Wake Forest
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Joe Trohman Smell GIF by Fall Out Boy
 
Calheel said:
The national league is coming. By 2031 we very well could have the CFP national league, with the Big10 division and the SEC division. All other schools will be playing for the lower-level title.
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Exactly.

It’s going to be a 40-64 team league.

The bulk of small private schools will not be invited. Wake, Syracuse, BC, and d00k will not be included. SMU will not (it has an alumni base with more money than God; but, it won’t attract enough TV or attendance revenue). Some SEC/Big 10 private schools might be jettisoned (Vandy and Northwestern). If USC doesn’t improve greatly, it might be gone.

The included schools will carry their weight in terms of revenue. That means some existing public schools might also be jettisoned (Mississippi State and one of Purdue/Indiana).

The College National Sports League will add at least one Virginia and one North Carolina school; but, no more than 2 (and likely just one).

The National College Sports League will divide into divisions a la pro leagues (8 teams per division).

It’ll own the D1 collegiate championships. It might invite non-members to non-football tournaments/playoffs if that increases revenue per team.
 
SnoopRob said:
My dream of the "national league" is 48 teams in 6 8-team divisions. Every division champ makes the playoff and then you add some number of at-large teams to create the playoffs.

But every other sport is played in small regional conferences of 8 or so teams.
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Agree completely, and I actually think that's what is likely to happen about 15 to 20 years down the road. I don't think the current Wild West college sports model is going to work long-term, and I think having 2 or maybe 3 three megaconferences for all college sports will ultimately fail and implode due to travel expenses, decline of regional rivalries, etc. I think we'll likely end up with something along the lines of what you suggested - college football separating itself into its own league and other college sports like basketball settling back into more regional, smaller conferences to save travel expenses.
 
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