superrific
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If you want to talk about Joe Biden's campaign or anything related to it, here ya go. Don't bring that to other threads.
In response to some posts and also some GOP complaints: there was nothing "anti-democratic" about Biden stepping aside. I've been words thrown around like "replaced" or "forced out." Yeah, that didn't happen. You might be able to make that claim if he went all the way to the convention and the delegates refused to vote for him. But let's think about what happened:
1. It appears that voters didn't like the idea of Biden as president for the next four years. So Biden stepped aside in a race he realized he would lose. That's democracy in action.
2. One of the factors that forced his hand was the money -- namely, the lack of it. That is also our democracy in action. We have a system in which lots of money is required to run for president. So within that framework, appealing to donors (especially small dollar donors) is democracy. This is one of the constraining factors on presidential ideologies. Presidents have to earn votes from swing voters. To do that, they need to raise money, and typically that money will come from the base.
So Biden was having trouble raising money. That's democracy.
3. The timing was precipitated by the aging process. It was a bit inconvenient but there's no real difference between a president deciding not to run for re-election in March and in July. Remember: primaries are a recent invention. For the majority of our history, candidates were chosen at party conventions, by delegates. And it's possible, if Kamala wins, that the parties will rethink what primaries are about and how to structure them.
Now, if anyone wants to tee off on Biden or the Dems or anyone else, please go for it.
In response to some posts and also some GOP complaints: there was nothing "anti-democratic" about Biden stepping aside. I've been words thrown around like "replaced" or "forced out." Yeah, that didn't happen. You might be able to make that claim if he went all the way to the convention and the delegates refused to vote for him. But let's think about what happened:
1. It appears that voters didn't like the idea of Biden as president for the next four years. So Biden stepped aside in a race he realized he would lose. That's democracy in action.
2. One of the factors that forced his hand was the money -- namely, the lack of it. That is also our democracy in action. We have a system in which lots of money is required to run for president. So within that framework, appealing to donors (especially small dollar donors) is democracy. This is one of the constraining factors on presidential ideologies. Presidents have to earn votes from swing voters. To do that, they need to raise money, and typically that money will come from the base.
So Biden was having trouble raising money. That's democracy.
3. The timing was precipitated by the aging process. It was a bit inconvenient but there's no real difference between a president deciding not to run for re-election in March and in July. Remember: primaries are a recent invention. For the majority of our history, candidates were chosen at party conventions, by delegates. And it's possible, if Kamala wins, that the parties will rethink what primaries are about and how to structure them.
Now, if anyone wants to tee off on Biden or the Dems or anyone else, please go for it.