The Knots Thread

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@superrific I am avocationally interested in this subject.

Is it possible the necktie knot you tie is the Shelby/Pratt knot? This is a very close knot with identical beginning steps but differs at the end.

If you don't use the Pratt/Shelby Knot then can you spot the one you do use in this list of 50 different (Swedish) ways to tie a tie?

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Gentlemen of Sweden

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This isn't a game of gotcha. I'm genuinely curious if you use this precise knot.
 
Ddseddse said:
@superrific I am avocationally interested in this subject.

Is it possible the necktie knot you tie is the Shelby/Pratt knot? This is a very close knot with identical beginning steps but differs at the end.

If you don't use the Pratt/Shelby Knot then can you spot the one you do use in this list of 50 different (Swedish) ways to tie a tie?

gentlemenofsweden.se

Gentlemen of Sweden

gentlemenofsweden.se gentlemenofsweden.se

This isn't a game of gotcha. I'm genuinely curious if you use this precise knot.
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It's not the Pratt. I don't know what it's called. I saw it on a youtube video like 20 years ago or something like that.

Looking at the images, maybe a Prince Albert? I'd have to think more when I have time.
 


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I enjoy knots, I find then subtle and insidious and brain breaking. There are left handed and right handed versions of knots that in some respects are the same knot and in other respects different knots (the simplest example is when you tie two consecutive overhand knots of the same handedness you get a granny knot, but if you tie two consecutive overhand knots of opposite handedness you get a square or reef knot - note in both cases the constituent knot, the overhand knot is the precise same knot, but the handedness controls the composite result). The study of knots is closely tied to topology and math (sadly, I know nothing about the topology or math of knots, maybe someday I'll dig into that).
 
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And in both Super's and my defense, the question of "Is this the same knot?" isn't always trivial.

Which is one of the reasons r/knots exists.
 
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When I was about 12 or 13, my father gave me, as a birthday present, "The Art of Knotting and Splicing" by Cyrus Lawrence Day, 2nd Edition (1955), published by the U.S. Naval Institute. This is still a book that I cherish and frequently consult. Because the "right" knot can just solve so many problems in life, this book as taken on a certain quasi-religious/moral compass tone with me. Just checked Amazon. There is a 3rd (1986) edition. The only reason I'm not buying the 3rd edition is because I am certain that would "force" me to buy the 1st edition and those 1st editions are kind of pricey.
 
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When I was about 12 or 13, my father gave me, as a birthday present, "The Art of Knotting and Splicing" by Cyrus Lawrence Day, 2nd Edition (1955), published by the U.S. Naval Institute. This is still a book that I cherish and frequently consult. Because the "right" knot can just solve so many problems in life, this book as taken on a certain quasi-religious/moral compass tone with me. Just checked Amazon. There is a 3rd (1986) edition. The only reason I'm not buying the 3rd edition is because I am certain that would "force" me to buy the 1st edition and those 1st editions are kind of pricey.
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I have a slim volume called The Arts of the Sailor that goes deep into splicing and such. A well spliced natural rope is a work of art. I've made a few rudimentary attempts at it. One day I'd like to get serious about it.

I'll have to check out the Art of Knotting and Splicing. Sounds right up my alley.
 
nrsair said:
Big fan of knots. The Ashley Book of Knots stays on my desk and I try to learn a couple new ones on slow days.
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This is interesting.

I often find I'm naive of certain topics, but I always supporting of things that bring people joy.

I've not thought about a know since I was in the cub scouts. I find it very interesting that there is a book of knots and people try to learn them all.

What percentage of the book have you mastered?
 
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This is interesting.

I often find I'm naive of certain topics, but I always supporting of things that bring people joy.

I've not thought about a know since I was in the cub scouts. I find it very interesting that there is a book of knots and people try to learn them all.

What percentage of the book have you mastered?
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As a teenager at the North Carolina Outward Bound school, I was taught to carry a "pet rope" around, Just a 6 to 8 foot length or rope you keep on hand for practicing tying knots and learning new ones. That always stuck with me and I've had one around ever since (and my NCOBS course was a looong time ago).

I would say I have a decent repertoire of knots I can tie fluently (at the same time laughably small compared to other folks).

If (like me) you find fidget spinners simultaneously soothing and inanely boring and pointless, get yourself a book of knots and a pet rope. Perfect for conference calls. Even when you have to pay attention you can just tie knots you have already mastered to keep your hands busy.
 
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