The Supreme Court must be destroyed

It's not impossible. Defeatism is self-fulfilling. We could have everything in your first paragraph.

I think this should be a potent theme for Dems starting in 2027. Run against the Supreme Court. Voters want change, we'll give them change.

1. No more bullshit gerrymandering
2. No more getting fucked by every retailer around because arbitration
3. Wages will go up if non-competes are eliminated
4. No more DOGE

etc. Run against the Supreme Court as the ultimate Deep State. It would be worth noting that in most of the worst cases, the non-Supreme Court lower courts got the job done correctly. They didn't make the president a king. They didn't allow DOGE to access everyone's private data. etc. etc. The Problem is the US Supreme Court.

What we need is someone -- maybe I'll do it! -- to compile a list of the worst Supreme Court decisions in terms of their effect on the welfare of ordinary Americans. And then run on that.
I think your instinct to run against the court as unpopular is the right one. But it isn’t enough alone.

Voters don’t need a list of bad cases, they need someone to say clearly: the court is protecting the people screwing you, your boss, your landlord, your credit card company. We’re going to take that power back.

At a certain point, we have to stop dreaming up new structures to better filter elite opinion and start organizing real democratic power that can confront it.
 
I think your instinct to run against the court as unpopular is the right one. But it isn’t enough alone.

Voters don’t need a list of bad cases, they need someone to say clearly: the court is protecting the people screwing you, your boss, your landlord, your credit card company. We’re going to take that power back.

At a certain point, we have to stop dreaming up new structures to better filter elite opinion and start organizing real democratic power that can confront it.
I agree but how do you get the message out? The Democratic party as it exists today, doesn't have the media conglomerate to unite around the message and deliver it to the people the way the MAGATS have cultivated. I used to have a small level of respect for CNN but Jake Tapper with his shitastic book and the fact that they pay Scott Jennings to spout his bullshit have turned me off. BTW, Scott Jennings is slowly creeping into the top 3 MAGATS that if I ever saw on the street, I'd punch square in their smug face (Ted Cruz, Mitch McConnell, and MTG [I know I'm not supposed to hit a woman but I'd make an exception in her vile case] are at the top of my list. Where is the Democratic answer to Faux News/OAN? The Democrats need a well oiled media machine, that includes print and tv, to consistently hammer home the message. The drawback is that Faux News and Orange Julius have convinced their deplorable base that anything not said by them is Fake news. How do you break through to the people you need to get the message heard and understood? I know there's another chat here that discusses wanting to have conservatives here, but until such time as they have suffered enough pain to realize that they were duped, we're fighting a forest fire with a garden hose.
 
I agree but how do you get the message out? The Democratic party as it exists today, doesn't have the media conglomerate to unite around the message and deliver it to the people the way the MAGATS have cultivated. I used to have a small level of respect for CNN but Jake Tapper with his shitastic book and the fact that they pay Scott Jennings to spout his bullshit have turned me off. BTW, Scott Jennings is slowly creeping into the top 3 MAGATS that if I ever saw on the street, I'd punch square in their smug face (Ted Cruz, Mitch McConnell, and MTG [I know I'm not supposed to hit a woman but I'd make an exception in her vile case] are at the top of my list. Where is the Democratic answer to Faux News/OAN? The Democrats need a well oiled media machine, that includes print and tv, to consistently hammer home the message. The drawback is that Faux News and Orange Julius have convinced their deplorable base that anything not said by them is Fake news. How do you break through to the people you need to get the message heard and understood? I know there's another chat here that discusses wanting to have conservatives here, but until such time as they have suffered enough pain to realize that they were duped, we're fighting a forest fire with a garden hose.
You're right to be frustrated, but the issue isn't just that Democrats lack a Fox or OANN. It's that they refuse to embrace the independent left media that already exists. There are podcasts, YouTubers, TikTokers, and writers who are anti-corporate, pro-worker, and actually responsive to the public. But the Democratic establishment treats them like a threat, not an asset.

Why? Because they are a threat: to donors, consultants, and the liberal elites who still think politics is about managing opinion instead of organizing power. Fox wins by building emotional connection and narrative. Democrats still think they can fact-check their way to victory. That’s not a strategy, it’s a retreat.

The left doesn’t need to copy right-wing media. It needs to lift up the populist voices already doing the work and reach people directly. If we want to run against the court, we have to run for something too: a people-powered movement that tells the truth.
 
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Super is also right about the Project 2025 aspect.

The left has to stop thinking winning the narrative is the same as winning power. It is not. You don’t beat the right simply with viral posts. This is why the “we need a Joe Rogan on the left” thing is so stupid. We already have those people, it’s just that the Democratic Party doesn’t recognize and bring in independent media in the same way Republicans have.

You need people who are trained, organized, and ready to govern.

Trump and the right get this. Project 2025 was their plan to take over every agency with loyalists who will enforce their agenda. It is dangerous and effective. The left should be learning from it.

We need our own version of Project 2025. One that is democratic, multiracial, and rooted in the working class. A left bench that knows how to write policy, staff government, and fight for real change. Not just candidates, but staffers, lawyers, communicators.

The Democratic establishment will not build this without being forced to. If we want to win and use power, we need to start now.
 
I think your instinct to run against the court as unpopular is the right one. But it isn’t enough alone.

Voters don’t need a list of bad cases, they need someone to say clearly: the court is protecting the people screwing you, your boss, your landlord, your credit card company. We’re going to take that power back.

At a certain point, we have to stop dreaming up new structures to better filter elite opinion and start organizing real democratic power that can confront it.
We're saying the same thing. I'm not saying message those cases; that's for the background discussion. Your formulation is good. It would obviously need refinement, but I'm not holding you to a standard of perfection for a first draft of something like a message board.

We need a villain: Supreme Court. The ultimate deep state.
 
Super is also right about the Project 2025 aspect.

The left has to stop thinking winning the narrative is the same as winning power. It is not. You don’t beat the right simply with viral posts. This is why the “we need a Joe Rogan on the left” thing is so stupid. We already have those people, it’s just that the Democratic Party doesn’t recognize and bring in independent media in the same way Republicans have.

You need people who are trained, organized, and ready to govern.

Trump and the right get this. Project 2025 was their plan to take over every agency with loyalists who will enforce their agenda. It is dangerous and effective. The left should be learning from it.

We need our own version of Project 2025. One that is democratic, multiracial, and rooted in the working class. A left bench that knows how to write policy, staff government, and fight for real change. Not just candidates, but staffers, lawyers, communicators.

The Democratic establishment will not build this without being forced to. If we want to win and use power, we need to start now.
And here we get back to the problem: multiracial, rooted in the working class. Not too easy to bring those two groups together - BUT, in a bad economy it could be possible (see Obama '08).

The biggest failing of Obama's first term, and I'm pretty sure he would say the thing, was moving too slowly in the first year. I mean, we didn't because the filibuster, but there could have been a lot more progress if Obama didn't fuck around trying to get Collins and Olympia Snowe on board with the stimulus and then he listened to the GOP nonsense on health care and then they gave the finance piece to Max Baucus.

Or, another way of looking at it, they should have blown up the filibuster as soon as it was obvious that the GOP had no intention for bipartisanship. If we had gotten the Obamacare we wanted, and then tackle other issues as well, we might not have lost so much in 10 and especially 14.

It's easy to forget that Obama didn't really run as a radical. He ran as a "let's bring both sides together and be reasonable together" candidate, which is what he did at the time. I think liberals still have Obama hangover, in the sense that we continue to laud bipartisanship as some sort of virtue (in a filibuster age, it is not). We see voters saying "we want bipartisanship" but I don't think that's really what they want. Or, put it differently, they want that until you put a shiny object in front of them that they like more. Like get rid of all the immigrants and solve all the country's problems in one month.

We have plenty of fucking staffers, policy wonks, lawyers, etc. There, we're covered. In fact, we have too many of them and they argue with each other too much. What we need is a Federalist Society -- i.e. an organization where we gather and trade ideas without the public seeing it and getting scared. The FedSoc always says, "we're open to everyone" and that's sort of true, but the problem is that few people want to attend their conferences because they were full of lunatic ideas like "competitive federalism" (this is where states, not bound meaningfully by the 14th, "compete" to attract residents. Usually this entails some combination of displacing minorities and installing official religion). I knew a guy who clerked for Clarence whose view was that the First Amendment only restricts Congress, and the states remain free to establish official religions -- he wanted Virginia and North Carolina to become officially Baptist. How can you carry on a conversation about that? You don't, so you don't go to the conference and you don't realize that 20 other fools who sort of teach quasi-law are jumping on the bandwagon.

We have organizations like that, but they are mostly leftie and they have scary names like Jacobin or other references to left-wing ideas. Who could argue with the idea of a Federalist Society? People who don't much about it probably don't realize how nefarious it is. This is not a major issue, but it came to mind recently as I realized how much of the Federalist Society bullshit the Supreme Court has swallowed. It's not only the legal theories -- it's that Federalist Society framing governs everything -- which is how we got Justices believing that Jack Smith was the threat to rule of law and not the insurrectionist.
 
And here we get back to the problem: multiracial, rooted in the working class. Not too easy to bring those two groups together - BUT, in a bad economy it could be possible (see Obama '08).

The biggest failing of Obama's first term, and I'm pretty sure he would say the thing, was moving too slowly in the first year. I mean, we didn't because the filibuster, but there could have been a lot more progress if Obama didn't fuck around trying to get Collins and Olympia Snowe on board with the stimulus and then he listened to the GOP nonsense on health care and then they gave the finance piece to Max Baucus.

Or, another way of looking at it, they should have blown up the filibuster as soon as it was obvious that the GOP had no intention for bipartisanship. If we had gotten the Obamacare we wanted, and then tackle other issues as well, we might not have lost so much in 10 and especially 14.

It's easy to forget that Obama didn't really run as a radical. He ran as a "let's bring both sides together and be reasonable together" candidate, which is what he did at the time. I think liberals still have Obama hangover, in the sense that we continue to laud bipartisanship as some sort of virtue (in a filibuster age, it is not). We see voters saying "we want bipartisanship" but I don't think that's really what they want. Or, put it differently, they want that until you put a shiny object in front of them that they like more. Like get rid of all the immigrants and solve all the country's problems in one month.

We have plenty of fucking staffers, policy wonks, lawyers, etc. There, we're covered. In fact, we have too many of them and they argue with each other too much. What we need is a Federalist Society -- i.e. an organization where we gather and trade ideas without the public seeing it and getting scared. The FedSoc always says, "we're open to everyone" and that's sort of true, but the problem is that few people want to attend their conferences because they were full of lunatic ideas like "competitive federalism" (this is where states, not bound meaningfully by the 14th, "compete" to attract residents. Usually this entails some combination of displacing minorities and installing official religion). I knew a guy who clerked for Clarence whose view was that the First Amendment only restricts Congress, and the states remain free to establish official religions -- he wanted Virginia and North Carolina to become officially Baptist. How can you carry on a conversation about that? You don't, so you don't go to the conference and you don't realize that 20 other fools who sort of teach quasi-law are jumping on the bandwagon.

We have organizations like that, but they are mostly leftie and they have scary names like Jacobin or other references to left-wing ideas. Who could argue with the idea of a Federalist Society? People who don't much about it probably don't realize how nefarious it is. This is not a major issue, but it came to mind recently as I realized how much of the Federalist Society bullshit the Supreme Court has swallowed. It's not only the legal theories -- it's that Federalist Society framing governs everything -- which is how we got Justices believing that Jack Smith was the threat to rule of law and not the insurrectionist.
You're right that there is no shortage of liberal staffers, lawyers, and policy wonks. But that is actually the problem. Most of them are technocrats, not ideologues. They are trained to manage the system, not transform it. When push comes to shove, they default to consensus, not confrontation.

That is why in moments of crisis like 2009 they ended up deferring to people like Max Baucus or chasing Collins and Snowe instead of pushing through bold change.

What we need is not more liberal lawyers. We need leftists. People who are grounded in class politics, who understand power, and who will not blink when the donor class screams.

A left version of the Federalist Society, yes, but not one obsessed with sounding reasonable in elite company. We need one that builds ideological discipline, trains people in how to actually govern, and feeds a pipeline into future administrations that will not roll over the second the Chamber of Commerce complains.

The right did not win the court just by training judges. They built a long-term ideological project. We need to do the same, only this time rooted in working-class priorities, not Harvard credentials.
 
You're right that there is no shortage of liberal staffers, lawyers, and policy wonks. But that is actually the problem. Most of them are technocrats, not ideologues. They are trained to manage the system, not transform it. When push comes to shove, they default to consensus, not confrontation.

That is why in moments of crisis like 2009 they ended up deferring to people like Max Baucus or chasing Collins and Snowe instead of pushing through bold change.

What we need is not more liberal lawyers. We need leftists. People who are grounded in class politics, who understand power, and who will not blink when the donor class screams.

A left version of the Federalist Society, yes, but not one obsessed with sounding reasonable in elite company. We need one that builds ideological discipline, trains people in how to actually govern, and feeds a pipeline into future administrations that will not roll over the second the Chamber of Commerce complains.

The right did not win the court just by training judges. They built a long-term ideological project. We need to do the same, only this time rooted in working-class priorities, not Harvard credentials.
1. The way the right won the court was mostly luck. If Thurgood had been able to hold out one more year, Clarence would never have happened. There's of course the Scalia/McConnell nonsense, but if HRC had won then we'd have a majority as well. Five justices have been appointed by GOP presidents who barely barely squeaked out electoral victories. It's not that difficult to see how things could have gone differently based on chance alone.

And, the Supreme Court has also contributed heavily to the GOP cause -- not just now, but going back to campaign finance and Shelby County. Contrary to public perception, Citizens United was less of a thunderstroke than it was a court taking the logic of previous nonsense decisions to gut the BCRA, essentially overturning McConnell v. FEC sub silentio.

So there has been a lot of luck, and that deflates my spirits at least. It's like, again? They luck out again?

2. Maybe it would be good to cut out the sniping toward allies. "Will not roll over the second Chamber of Commerce complains" describes no Democrats now that Sinema is history. I'm not going to snipe in return but you know that sort of caricature irritates me to no end.

3. We face another problem when trying to take cues from MAGA. To the extent the right-wing succeeds, it's with monstrous policies. They lose some educated folks in the suburbs but they gain all the previously disengaged racist pieces of shit who care about little else than cultural identity. We don't have that on the left. I mean, we have a little bit of it, but our base is educated. There's not a huge swell of hatred or animus just waiting to be unleashed. That's why moving left doesn't help us very much.

As we've talked about before, do young people (for instance) really want class politics? Do they really want to smash everything like MAGA? I don't think so. They want interest rates to go down so they can buy a home. They want a little bit of financial security. A functioning social safety net that isn't a welfare state. Our biggest recent victory, and our best talking point remains Obamacare, and health care more generally. Obamacare was pretty technocratic, right?

4. Another problem with the go left approach is the other asymmetry: MAGA loves to break shit because they don't actually care if it works. Their elites want to destroy government; their base has no idea how much they actually get from the government because they are too busy punching at minorities. Our party has to make government work. And that means we need technocrats.

If we have a party of ideologues, then maybe we can win a few elections but those ideologues have to be able to govern effectively. Governments staffed with the types of ideologues you're talking about are rarely competent. I suppose it's better to win and step in one's own doo doo than lose and have to eat theirs -- but if we fuck up when we have control, it will be difficult to win elections in the future.
 
I hear you on the role of luck, but we cannot keep chalking the court’s right-wing dominance up to bad breaks. The Federalist Society did not win just by chance. They spent decades cultivating a pipeline of judges, clerks, and legal theory. Yes, they caught some lucky breaks, but they were ready when those breaks came. That is the whole point. We were not.

My comment about Democrats folding under pressure was not meant as a cheap shot. It is about how structurally constrained the party is. Even the best-intentioned Democrats often end up governing from a defensive crouch because they are surrounded by institutions like media, think tanks, and donors that punish confrontation and reward managerialism. That is not about individual character, it is about political architecture. We need to build something different.

We do not need a left-wing version of MAGA’s hatred. What we need is MAGA’s discipline. Its ability to centralize message, reward loyalty, and punish defectors. Its willingness to actually wield power, not just hold office. The left’s base is different, sure. But if young people want affordable housing, healthcare, and security, then we better start organizing politics around delivering that, not just managing expectations. That is class politics. We do not have to smash everything. We just have to stop deferring to a status quo that has already failed.

No one is saying we should toss out competence. But competence without vision is how we got Obamacare instead of a public option. It is how we got climate policy carved up by Joe Manchin. It is how we got a student debt plan that fell to the court because it was structured through executive memo rather than legislation. Ideology is not the opposite of competence. It is what makes competence matter. Without it, you just end up making the machine run a little smoother while inequality grows.

I am not saying this is easy. But if we do not build a bench of people who know what they believe and have the skills to govern on those beliefs, we will keep losing the long game even when we win the election.
 
I hear you on the role of luck, but we cannot keep chalking the court’s right-wing dominance up to bad breaks. The Federalist Society did not win just by chance. They spent decades cultivating a pipeline of judges, clerks, and legal theory. Yes, they caught some lucky breaks, but they were ready when those breaks came. That is the whole point. We were not.

My comment about Democrats folding under pressure was not meant as a cheap shot. It is about how structurally constrained the party is. Even the best-intentioned Democrats often end up governing from a defensive crouch because they are surrounded by institutions like media, think tanks, and donors that punish confrontation and reward managerialism. That is not about individual character, it is about political architecture. We need to build something different.

We do not need a left-wing version of MAGA’s hatred. What we need is MAGA’s discipline. Its ability to centralize message, reward loyalty, and punish defectors. Its willingness to actually wield power, not just hold office. The left’s base is different, sure. But if young people want affordable housing, healthcare, and security, then we better start organizing politics around delivering that, not just managing expectations. That is class politics. We do not have to smash everything. We just have to stop deferring to a status quo that has already failed.

No one is saying we should toss out competence. But competence without vision is how we got Obamacare instead of a public option. It is how we got climate policy carved up by Joe Manchin. It is how we got a student debt plan that fell to the court because it was structured through executive memo rather than legislation. Ideology is not the opposite of competence. It is what makes competence matter. Without it, you just end up making the machine run a little smoother while inequality grows.

I am not saying this is easy. But if we do not build a bench of people who know what they believe and have the skills to govern on those beliefs, we will keep losing the long game even when we win the election.
1. The student debt plan was structured with legislation. The Court chose to ignore it by making up doctrines. Just like they ignored the 2007 renewal of the Voting Rights Act by a margin of [checks notes] 98-0 in the Senate.

2. What you're calling discipline, I would call unmoored fascism. We are going to have trouble competing with that "discipline" because of personalities. Authoritarian personalities -- i.e. the types of people who gladly submit to that sort of discipline -- gravitate to the right wing. Liberals are, by personality, less conflict-oriented, more open to experience, less willing to sacrifice personal beliefs for organizational standing. Liberals are skeptical by nature, due to some combination of education, experience and personality.

3. I don't agree that the status quo failed. It partly failed, but there are also a lot of institutions that are taken for granted, in part because they are not visible. For instance: the small business administration has helped tens of thousands of American start and run businesses. Fannie and Freddie and the CRA have helped millions buy new homes. There's plenty of good stuff that exists -- and hopefully it still will exist in a couple of years -- and the danger of running against the status quo in its entirety is that we will fuck up the good things that we have instead of improving them.

Now, I admit that "make things incrementally better" is not an exciting political slogan. We also agree that principled losers are still losers, and winning has to be priority #1. So yeah, that's our messaging challenge.

4. I'm not sure if you remember this or studied it, but it wasn't that long ago that old people were a Dem constituency -- largely because of SS and Medicare and the GOPs incessant efforts to cut those programs. They became Republican in the 00s because of cultural factors (being old, they were old-fashioned), but there have been signs in recent elections that they are turning on the GOP. These are people who actually remember the old days, rather than only myths. They grew up hating fascism and they are more capable overall, I think, of seeing through Trump's bullshit than their Gen X kids.

Well, those voters aren't likely to be receptive to the type of class politics that you're talking about. You're young; your world is mostly defined by young person things; and you have young person energy. You also have a long time horizon. If it takes a decade of realigning politics to get to a just society, you'll sign up for that in a hurry. I would too. But someone who is 75 maybe just wants to make sure they get their Medicare and SS.

Which brings us back to our other weakness: young people don't vote. This is such a frustrating political reality. I keep wanting it to be untrue. We keep seeing bursts of organizing energy among young people, issues that you'd think they would be super passionate about and . . . it never gets reflected in the numbers. Because young people have better things to do than vote, which for any individual person is an irrational activity.

5. I mean, if it were that simple to do what you are calling for, we would have done it already. I think you have the causality backwards. We don't eschew class politics because we rely on donors. We rely on donors because the non-donor stuff doesn't work. That it didn't work before doesn't mean it can't work in the future. It does mean we have to grapple with these problems, and they are tough. As I always say, being a liberal is about rejecting the easy way out. We're liberal because the world is complex, because it's hard.
 
1. The student debt plan was structured with legislation. The Court chose to ignore it by making up doctrines. Just like they ignored the 2007 renewal of the Voting Rights Act by a margin of [checks notes] 98-0 in the Senate.

2. What you're calling discipline, I would call unmoored fascism. We are going to have trouble competing with that "discipline" because of personalities. Authoritarian personalities -- i.e. the types of people who gladly submit to that sort of discipline -- gravitate to the right wing. Liberals are, by personality, less conflict-oriented, more open to experience, less willing to sacrifice personal beliefs for organizational standing. Liberals are skeptical by nature, due to some combination of education, experience and personality.

3. I don't agree that the status quo failed. It partly failed, but there are also a lot of institutions that are taken for granted, in part because they are not visible. For instance: the small business administration has helped tens of thousands of American start and run businesses. Fannie and Freddie and the CRA have helped millions buy new homes. There's plenty of good stuff that exists -- and hopefully it still will exist in a couple of years -- and the danger of running against the status quo in its entirety is that we will fuck up the good things that we have instead of improving them.

Now, I admit that "make things incrementally better" is not an exciting political slogan. We also agree that principled losers are still losers, and winning has to be priority #1. So yeah, that's our messaging challenge.

4. I'm not sure if you remember this or studied it, but it wasn't that long ago that old people were a Dem constituency -- largely because of SS and Medicare and the GOPs incessant efforts to cut those programs. They became Republican in the 00s because of cultural factors (being old, they were old-fashioned), but there have been signs in recent elections that they are turning on the GOP. These are people who actually remember the old days, rather than only myths. They grew up hating fascism and they are more capable overall, I think, of seeing through Trump's bullshit than their Gen X kids.

Well, those voters aren't likely to be receptive to the type of class politics that you're talking about. You're young; your world is mostly defined by young person things; and you have young person energy. You also have a long time horizon. If it takes a decade of realigning politics to get to a just society, you'll sign up for that in a hurry. I would too. But someone who is 75 maybe just wants to make sure they get their Medicare and SS.

Which brings us back to our other weakness: young people don't vote. This is such a frustrating political reality. I keep wanting it to be untrue. We keep seeing bursts of organizing energy among young people, issues that you'd think they would be super passionate about and . . . it never gets reflected in the numbers. Because young people have better things to do than vote, which for any individual person is an irrational activity.

5. I mean, if it were that simple to do what you are calling for, we would have done it already. I think you have the causality backwards. We don't eschew class politics because we rely on donors. We rely on donors because the non-donor stuff doesn't work. That it didn't work before doesn't mean it can't work in the future. It does mean we have to grapple with these problems, and they are tough. As I always say, being a liberal is about rejecting the easy way out. We're liberal because the world is complex, because it's hard.
The Court ignored the law, but Democrats chose a cautious legal path that made it easy to sabotage. Trusting institutions to do the right thing is not a strategy, it is a habit of weakness. We need power that can confront them directly.

Discipline is not fascism. The labor and civil rights movements had it without authoritarianism. It came from shared struggle and political clarity. That is what the left needs; not hierarchy but purpose.

No one is saying blow it all up. But “the system kinda works” is not a message anyone believes, especially younger or working-class people. If voters do not feel it works for them, defending it is a loser.

Now, it is true young people do not vote at the same rates. But they are also the most economically insecure, the most indebted, and the least invested in a broken status quo. That is not a reason to write them off, it is a reason to fight harder to earn their trust with bold, material politics.

Older voters want security, young voters want a future. The GOP gives different parts of its base different things: so can we.

Donor politics did not replace mass politics because the latter failed. It replaced it because it is easier to control. But it left us hollow. If we want durable power, we have to rebuild from the ground up with organizing, not just access.

I get that it’s hard and that mass politics hasn’t cracked the code yet. But relying on donors because “non-donor stuff doesn’t work” is exactly why the left keeps hitting a ceiling. It’s a self-fulfilling cycle: without investing seriously in organizing, non-donor politics can’t gain traction.

The complexity you mention means we can’t keep repeating the same donor-dependent model and expect different results. Rejecting the easy way out means doubling down on grassroots power, not retreating to technocratic comfort zones. That’s the only path to real change.

Good conversation as usual. These kind of honest discussions must happen for the party to move beyond the current moment.
 
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