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im not living in an area that has the potential to flood nor will i vacation in an area that might flood. damn sure wouldnt send my kids to a camp on a river that has flooded before. people are beyond stupid.
 
I've spent about 5,000 more hours in the NC mountains than in the Texas Hill Country so I'll acknowledge my view is skewed on this, but I am struggling so much to understand why there are still 160 people missing one week after the floods hit. I get that it's 60 miles or so of river that has to be searched and it's a massive mess. But one week after Helene, there were only 75 or so people still missing, and most of those were accounted for over the second week. And Helene impacted more than 10,000 square miles of rugged mountains.

I'm not saying this to blame anyone, but this disaster is just mindboggling to me. How do we not yet have a better sense of how many people actually died?
 
lawtig02 said:
I've spent about 5,000 more hours in the NC mountains than in the Texas Hill Country so I'll acknowledge my view is skewed on this, but I am struggling so much to understand why there are still 160 people missing one week after the floods hit. I get that it's 60 miles or so of river that has to be searched and it's a massive mess. But one week after Helene, there were only 75 or so people still missing, and most of those were accounted for over the second week. And Helene impacted more than 10,000 square miles of rugged mountains.

I'm not saying this to blame anyone, but this disaster is just mindboggling to me. How do we not yet have a better sense of how many people actually died?
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I don't know how much of a factor it is, but there are a number of articles out there about how how under Trump, DOGE, and Kristi Noem FEMA's ability to quickly and fully respond to these types of disasters has been significantly scaled back. For example, Noem now requires FEMA to get personal approval from her for any expenditure over $100,000, which considerably slows down their ability to send rescue and recovery teams into the affected areas. She didn't approve FEMA search and rescue teams for the Texas flooding until 72 hours after the flood. So I would think that has probably affected the ability to recover and account for missing people. There were statements from some former FEMA folks who were surprised at how "limited" FEMA's response was compared to previous disasters of this type. DOGE and Project 2025 wanted massive budget cuts, and when necessary things are cut this is what you get.
 
lawtig02 said:
I've spent about 5,000 more hours in the NC mountains than in the Texas Hill Country so I'll acknowledge my view is skewed on this, but I am struggling so much to understand why there are still 160 people missing one week after the floods hit. I get that it's 60 miles or so of river that has to be searched and it's a massive mess. But one week after Helene, there were only 75 or so people still missing, and most of those were accounted for over the second week. And Helene impacted more than 10,000 square miles of rugged mountains.

I'm not saying this to blame anyone, but this disaster is just mindboggling to me. How do we not yet have a better sense of how many people actually died?
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Much different terrain than the NC mountains - which has far more foliage. Most of the missing are buried under mud; mangled in debris fields.

Camp counselors that were aware of their cell phones were able to move campers to higher ground.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
I don't know how much of a factor it is, but there are a number of articles out there about how how under Trump, DOGE, and Kristi Noem FEMA's ability to quickly and fully respond to these types of disasters has been significantly scaled back. For example, Noem now requires FEMA to get personal approval from her for any expenditure over $100,000, which considerably slows down their ability to send rescue and recovery teams into the affected areas. She didn't approve FEMA search and rescue teams for the Texas flooding until 72 hours after the flood. So I would think that has probably affected the ability to recover and account for missing people. There were statements from some former FEMA folks who were surprised at how "limited" FEMA's response was compared to previous disasters of this type. DOGE and Project 2025 wanted massive budget cuts, and when necessary things are cut this is what you get.
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Yet this asshole was going to save the mountains of NC from Bidens disastrous disaster response. When I think of any Republican I’m reminded of Sucession. These are not serious people. Fucking buffoons .
 
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