Therapy who’s in it and who’s not?

Callatoroy said:
Im not against it if I felt I needed it. My life is pretty good right now in that im content with what I have. I have good relationships with my kids and feel they have a good grasp on social media and I think I have taught them to not trust nor distrust the media but to verify, understanding that often they are only getting parts of the story. I can’t understand why highly educated people allow the toxicity of politics to ruin friendships or family relationships. My life improved greatly when I learned to turn politics off and quit allowing the media to manipulate my feelings. A lot of anger I felt due to politics went away when I put myself in control rather than ceding control to the media.

One of the posts in this thread made me think of the last episode of Landman when Tommy was giving his son advice on how to fix things with his girlfriend and advice on women in general. I thought based on some of my experiences with women that it was great advice.

Im supportive of people getting whatever help they need from whomever is effective in helping them. Im almost positive I could fix many people on here if they would just accept what I tell them ;)
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SmilingJack said:
It seems to be a recurring theme with everyone that previous traumatic shit never just allows us to “Get over it!” (Think PTSD). Which is what society and ourselves tend to tell us. Don’t know what that little 9-10 year old went through but he’s no doubt still protecting you! I suspect it’s time for you to take care of him by dealing with that shit and letting him go back to being a child? That’s what happened with me but you should do both/all of you a favor and give it a shot!
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My trauma from back then just made me appreciate loyalty and fidelity and being honest in relationships. All good stuff as an adult.
I think those coping skills have helped me stick and stay with a wonderful person who is battling much worse demons than I.

If anything, maybe couples counselling for more coping skills.
 
Callatoroy said:
Im supportive of people getting whatever help they need from whomever is effective in helping them. Im almost positive I could fix many people on here if they would just accept what I tell them ;)
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This sounds like an ex friend of mine, he'd break our his Bible and tell everyone how to fix everything.

His sister committed suicide, he claimed it was because she was possessed. I do not know what happened after his wife left him and his family fell apart.

He was a big reason I stopped going to church.

I'm not saying you are like him, just that paragraph reads like something he would say.

As for the statements about social media, my issues started long before smart phones. I've been on this journey my entire life. It just seems that new challenges find me.
 
keywestheel said:
I was in therapy for years and spent tens of thousands of dollars. Little did I know it's really nothing more than you have to help yourself and I could have found the exact same self help tools and more at the local library for free.

Thankfully I was able to resist the numerous prescriptions from therapists over the years which I feel do a lot more harm than good. I've never felt better after years of depression and constant anxiety.
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That seems like an awfully ill-informed perspective on mental health. Perhaps there’s an irony/dark humor in your post that I’m not getting?
 
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I started going when I was married to my ex wife, trying to figure out why I was unhappy and what I could do better to be happier in the marriage. The fact she never cared to go herself and acted like it was stupid that I did was a great indicator that marriage wasn't going to work out. I still go every 2 weeks to work on my anxiety and my need to try to fix everything 🫠
 
pspsps said:
Are you talking about a psychiatrist because my experience is that therapists do not prescribe medications?
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Therapists (typically) cannot prescribe meds directly, but many will work with your GP to have the GP prescribe them.
 
I saw someone YEARS ago bc of my anger issues because I felt my life was falling apart. I was just separated from my now ex-wife who at least was having an emotional affair if not physical with her current husband who was her boss (he's a drunken POS who hasn't worked in 6 years so good riddance), had custody of my two boys, had to move back in with my parents for a bit, had to find a new job in a city I didn't want to be in (where I graduated HS).

Went for about 6-7 months. I actually liked the guy but before him my ex-wife and I tried marriage counseling and when I said we were there bc of her affair, he said "well, you'll need to just move past it" I laughed said thanks for that shit advice, got up and left. We tried another who all he wanted to do was sell us his book and give us personality tests. He also said I was the reason she sought someone else. Again, fuck that. She made her own decisions and decided not to involve me.

The two marriage counselors were a fuckin' joke. The individual counselor was legit but I'm not sure he helped me all that much other than to point out that being a sarcastic ass wasn't working the gave me some advice on how to change. I did and it worked but the real work came when I needed to be a parent and needed to be a better example to my boys.

I still fail but I'm very quick to point it out and apologize. My boys have said that seeing me be imperfect but taking accountability of my actions and willing to work on being better was the best parental lesson I could've given them. I mean, I must've done something right because my oldest (19 yr old) just graduated from Marine Corps Bootcamp a couple of weeks ago and did quite well. He got out as a E-2 (PFC) bc he had 2 years of JROTC, will make Lance Corporal sooner than most bc he did so well at bootcamp and could possibly make Sargent by the time his contract is up bc he chose Cyber Security as his MOS.

My 16 yr old Jr in HS is in the top 10% of his class, NJHS member, is taking 2 duel enrollment classes and 2 AP classes so he could potentially be a sophomore in college when he actually attends. That along with his honors Philosophy and Honors chem classes means he's busy AF. He's trying to decide between William and Mary and UVA. His chosen career interest ... psychiatrist.

I'm so proud of my boys. I hope they do far better at life than me.

Back to the topic. I echo those that say going to therapy and finding the right therapist are two totally different things. I doubt I'll ever go back again but I don't begrudge anyone for doing so. Like finding a significant other - just make sure you find the one who's crazy matches yours because the wrong therapist will make shit worse not better.
 
EyeballKid said:
That seems like an awfully ill-informed perspective on mental health. Perhaps there’s an irony/dark humor in your post that I’m not getting?
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It's MY honest perspective . If you feel like it's awfully ill-informed so be it. It's my belief that years of treatment is plenty enough proof it doesn't work. I can only speak for myself.
 
This is something that is personal, it may not work for everyone, for multiple reasons.

That being said, may I ask that those of you who do not believe it worked in your case, please let this thread progress for those of us that believe it works and would like to discuss how it has worked or other nuances of the discussion. It would be nice to keep this thread on track and not derail it.
 
UNCatTech said:
This is something that is personal, it may not work for everyone, for multiple reasons.

That being said, may I ask that those of you who do not believe it worked in your case, please let this thread progress for those of us that believe it works and would like to discuss how it has worked or other nuances of the discussion. It would be nice to keep this thread on track and not derail it.
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Well certainly but that steals the opportunity to step onto a pedestal and punch down.
 
therapists are just like preachers...always looking for their next lifelong customer. they will medicate you and baby you and tell you that they will see you next week. thats how they have been trained and why its called treatment. if you have to keep doing something maybe its not really helping you after all.
 
OGtruthhurts said:
therapists are just like preachers...always looking for their next lifelong customer. they will medicate you and baby you and tell you that they will see you next week. thats how they have been trained and why its called treatment. if you have to keep doing something maybe its not really helping you after all.
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Obviously, you have an axe to grind. That said, I'm sorry you had a bad therapy experience .
 
OGtruthhurts said:
therapists are just like preachers...always looking for their next lifelong customer. they will medicate you and baby you and tell you that they will see you next week. thats how they have been trained and why its called treatment. if you have to keep doing something maybe its not really helping you after all.
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I disagree. Every therapist I've been to the goal was to help me reach a point i didn't need to continue.

Also, opposite of a preacher a good therapist doesn't tell you they have all the answers pacha in a nice book. They also help you find answers instead of telling you to have faith.

As for your last statement. Exercise is a great example where you have to keep doing something to get the most benefit. There are other things.

All therapy doesn't consist of talking to a therapist, there are other ways to seek improvement. Many find exercise therapeutic, books are great, study in general helps.

From reading your post on this site, I believe there are probably things in your life that you may be leaving unresolved. I hope that you at some point are willing to take an open minded approach to that resolution, which could possibly involve a therapist.

Hope you have a wonderful weekend.
 
OGtruthhurts said:
therapists are just like preachers...always looking for their next lifelong customer. they will medicate you and baby you and tell you that they will see you next week. thats how they have been trained and why its called treatment. if you have to keep doing something maybe its not really helping you after all.
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Maybe you were babied because they saw your fragility? I went to a therapist for 6-8 months during a period a few friends and family said I had changed but they did not or could not say how. I figured maybe these therapist folks who I had always denigrated quietly in my mind had a key. What was the true risk aside the terrible fear some people have subconsciously that they might learn something about themselves that they do not like? That seemed cowardly in the face of loved ones having concern so I went. I was clear to the guy that if I sensed he was blowing smoke up my ass I was done. He did not blow smoke and most sessions I left pissed at the guy. I respected he was someone I held no emotional investment in who could make me feel something and then move that thought towards understanding and change in thinking and behavior. After about six months I was able to realize I had essentially become more stoic on top of stoic because after a year of multiple friend and family deaths I had become fixated on the intersection of my own mortality and sense of responsibility to others as a lifelong very paternal figure. The guy helped me realize I was taking on responsibilities for others and turning them into anxiety that was misplaced because the people associated with the responsibilities were capable people who no longer needed my stewardship. I had to face the loss of some part of my paternal identity but I also got to chill out a bit and smile a bit more.

And again I have never encountered a friend or family member who was “medicated” by a therapist.
 
pspsps said:
Maybe you were babied because they saw your fragility? I went to a therapist for 6-8 months during a period a few friends and family said I had changed but they did not or could not say how. I figured maybe these therapist folks who I had always denigrated quietly in my mind had a key. What was the true risk aside the terrible fear some people have subconsciously that they might learn something about themselves that they do not like? That seemed cowardly in the face of loved ones having concern so I went. I was clear to the guy that if I sensed he was blowing smoke up my ass I was done. He did not blow smoke and most sessions I left pissed at the guy. I respected he was someone I held no emotional investment in who could make me feel something and then move that thought towards understanding and change in thinking and behavior. After about six months I was able to realize I had essentially become more stoic on top of stoic because after a year of multiple friend and family deaths I had become fixated on the intersection of my own mortality and sense of responsibility to others as a lifelong very paternal figure. The guy helped me realize I was taking on responsibilities for others and turning them into anxiety that was misplaced because the people associated with the responsibilities were capable people who no longer needed my stewardship. I had to face the loss of some part of my paternal identity but I also got to chill out a bit and smile a bit more.

And again I have never encountered a friend or family member who was “medicated” by a therapist.
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For the most part only MDs can prescribe medication. I think there may be a few states that allow psychologists to prescribe certain medications.
 
heelinhell said:
For the most part only MDs can prescribe medication. I think there may be a few states that allow psychologists to prescribe certain medications.
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In Georgia only a psychiatrist can prescribe.

This is why my daughter had both a therapist and psychiatrist.

Currently we are working with a new group and taking a slightly different approach.
 
UNCatTech said:
In Georgia only a psychiatrist can prescribe.

This is why my daughter had both a therapist and psychiatrist.

Currently we are working with a new group and taking a slightly different approach.
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Psychiatrists who are highly skilled psychotherapists are rare. In my experience a psychiatrist/psychotherapist team would be the way to go.
 
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