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I get our disconnect now, and suspect that we will be more on the same page once you've learned more about the event - many people that I grew up with attended the rally, and survived. It's why I have a different view of Boomers than others do. They put in far more work than people realize, and were willing to sacrifice far more than people understand. Look John Kenyon Chapman, who was one of the survivors, and whose house I went to for much of my childhood. Do a google search for the "John Kenyon Chapman Papers" but also search for the name I knew him by, "Yonni."
Will do. Boomers have understandably taken a lot of heat for our current political circumstances, but there has obviously been a cohort that is willing to stand up. Any study of this era will tell you that, regardless of whether one knows about this particular event or not.
 
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The massacre itself (Nov. 3rd, 1979) was three days before I was born. I'm honestly surprised that this is new to you - it's literally the defining moment in the North Carolina protest movement since the Greensboro Four.
I don’t think most people in NC are aware of it.

I became aware of it when I was in college, which made sense considering I went to Guilford College. Other than there and these boards, I don’t think I ever would have heard about it.
 
I don’t think most people in NC are aware of it.

I became aware of it when I was in college, which made sense considering I went to Guilford College. Other than there and these boards, I don’t think I ever would have heard about it.
What year did you graduate? I was '02. And, to be clear, I agree that most people don't. I'm more genuinely surprised that it is new to Paine.
 
What year did you graduate? I was '02. And, to be clear, I agree that most people don't. I'm more genuinely surprised that it is new to Paine.
I’ve been reading about it since you replied to me. Kind of embarrassing that I’ve never heard of this tbh. For me and for the institutions I came through.

My focus in college was generally on antebellum American history, so I guess it makes since in that context. I still would’ve expected to run into this at some other point in my coursework.

I had similar feelings when I learned about the Battle of Hayes Pond in college.
 
I’ve been reading about it since you replied to me. Kind of embarrassing that I’ve never heard of this tbh. For me and for the institutions I came through.

My focus in college was generally on antebellum American history, so I guess it makes since in that context. I still would’ve expected to run into this at some other point in my coursework.

I had similar feelings when I learned about the Battle of Hayes Pond in college.
I appreciate it - and I don't mean any of this as a dig at you; we all have these gaps.
 
I wonder how many of today’s Lumbees would be KKKers (or happy to give the Klan a wink-and-nod)?
 


I taught this very subject (NC History) at Guilford College between 1993 and 1999 (part-time) and then again from 2005 until 2012. Alex Stoesen was the NC and US History guy that first time and then I took over a good deal of his courses when I came back full-time. We had a rule in the history department that I suspect still stands...no senior theses about this topic. From what I understand, there had already been too many by the time I got there in 1993.
 
Profs in History would have been Stoesen, Kircher, Malino, Cooley...perhaps Horton and of course, Israel.
I definitely had classes with Israel. I remember Kircher, Malino, and Cooley. I had classes with Malino’s husband.
 
Malino and Malino split and she passed away about a year ago. Cooley is gone too.

Current department (with whom I am in touch often) is Slaby, Akins, Kircher, Chen, and Theusen.
 
I suspect most NC high school students don’t learn about the Wilmington Massacre (1898) or the Loray Mill Strike (1929) in Gastonia either.




I’ll quote myself on this. The info was in the book but we never discussed it.

My 7th grade textbook was titled, ‘North Carolina: History-Geography-Government’ and it was written by Dr. Hugh T. Lefler from Cooleemee, NC and the Department of History at UNC. ‘NC:HGG’ was my book in 1971, had been published in 1959, and reprised much of the material from ‘North Carolina: The History of A Southern State’ from 1954. Lefler’s co-author in both was Dr. A.R. Newsome, also a native Tar Heel (Marshville) and UNC History Professor.

It mainly left out African Americans save to mention that they had been enslaved and according to Lefler, had been a ‘problem’ ever since emancipation. In his version, in the late 19th century conservative Democrats, whose leaders were the White Supremacist sons and descendants in most cases of slave holders and secessionists, had risen up against “Bad Government” and “Negro Rule” to eventually return the state fully to white control. He did mention briefly that “an organization called the ‘Red Shirts’ which used some of the methods of the old Ku Klux Klan” aided in “keep[ing] the Negro from voting” as part of that conservative, regressive return to power.

To continue in that same vein, about the murderous acts of White Supremacists in 1898 Lefler wrote: “After the election there was a race riot in Wilmington. Several Negroes were killed; many were driven from the city; a few white people were wounded; and the Democrats seized control of the city government.”
 
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#OTD (November 19) in 1958 one of the most famous Tar Heel-related tunes hit #1 on the Billboard Charts — “Tom Dooley” as sung by The Kingston Trio. Lots of us can sing that one and quite a few know the sad and too common backstory of love and violence it tells. But what else is ‘Out There’ that mentions North Carolina or a place, event, or person with Old North State connections? “The Wreck of the Old 97,” sung by many but made most famous by Johnny Cash names Spencer, NC in the opening stanza. Ben Folds Five’s “Where's Summer B?” laments the downfall of Chapel Hill’s beloved loon magnet The Hardback Cafe. Townes Van Zandt once looked up from Texas at a “Greensboro Woman” - a song for driving if you ask me. What Other Songs Can You Name (or link below to a YouTube or Lyrics site?) Kingston Trio Hits the Top of the Charts with “Tom Dooley” in 1958
 
I suspect most NC high school students don’t learn about the Wilmington Massacre (1898) or the Loray Mill Strike (1929) in Gastonia either.


or the Burlington race riot, which was started because the school that I work at didn’t want to integrate the cheerleading squad.

 
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