lawtig02
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Yeah, Jesus was to the Pharisees as Brian McLaren is to Paula White.I guess when Jesus called the Pharisees a "brood of vipers", he was just giving them a pet name.
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Yeah, Jesus was to the Pharisees as Brian McLaren is to Paula White.I guess when Jesus called the Pharisees a "brood of vipers", he was just giving them a pet name.
Man, I haven't thought about Brian McLaren in awhile. Good times.Yeah, Jesus was to the Pharisees as Brian McLaren is to Paula White.
"Jesus was a radical, non-violent revolutionary who hung around with lepers, hookers and crooks; wasn’t American and never spoke English; was anti-wealth, anti-death penalty, anti-public prayer (M 6:5), but was never anti-gay; never mentioned abortion or birth control; never called the poor ‘lazy’; never justified torture; never fought for tax cuts for the wealthiest Nazarenes; never asked a leper for a co-pay; and was a long-haired, brown-skinned, homeless, community-organizing, anti-slut-shaming, Middle Eastern Jew.I think you're saying that Christian conservatives are precisely what they disdain. But to point out this boring hypocrisy you're reinforcing what's fucked up about the comparison to begin with.
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.I think you're saying that Christian conservatives are precisely what they disdain. But to point out this boring hypocrisy you're reinforcing what's fucked up about the comparison to begin with.
"Jesus was a radical, non-violent revolutionary who hung around with lepers, hookers and crooks; wasn’t American and never spoke English; was anti-wealth, anti-death penalty, anti-public prayer (M 6:5), but was never anti-gay; never mentioned abortion or birth control; never called the poor ‘lazy’; never justified torture; never fought for tax cuts for the wealthiest Nazarenes; never asked a leper for a co-pay; and was a long-haired, brown-skinned, homeless, community-organizing, anti-slut-shaming, Middle Eastern Jew.
JOHN FUGELSANG
Well sure. By that standard, he also had more in common with Caesar Augustus than he has with a contemporary Democrat. I'm not sure what the point is of drawing analogies across time unless you adjust uniformly for the temporal changes.I applaud the effort to give liberal politics a "religious" grounding that will win over more Christian voters and, for that matter, inoculate normie Christians against the extremists in their midsts. But you're not going to convince me that a 1st-century Jewish apocalyptic preacher from bumfuck Galilee has a ton in common with a typical 21st-century, college-educated Democrat.
Do you think that turning food into excrement through digestion removes its ritual impurities? Do you even know what that means? Or do you just ignore those parts of the gospel because you can't derive any immediate relevance from it and you're not curious enough to learn more about how Jesus inhabited a radically different world than your own? "Sure, he's the moral exemplar of human existence. No, I can't be bothered to know what the fuck is going on."
To pretend that Jesus has more in common with a contemporary Democrat than a 1st-century Pharisee just shows how little you know about the subject.
Well sure. By that standard, he also had more in common with Caesar Augustus than he has with a contemporary Democrat. I'm not sure what the point is of drawing analogies across time unless you adjust uniformly for the temporal changes.
Well sure. By that standard, he also had more in common with Caesar Augustus than he has with a contemporary Democrat. I'm not sure what the point is of drawing analogies across time unless you adjust uniformly for the temporal changes.
"Christian conservatives" aren't very conservative and don't seem to follow Christ's teachings. They are white nationalists wrapping themselves in a religion that they don't understand.I think you're saying that Christian conservatives are precisely what they disdain. But to point out this boring hypocrisy you're reinforcing what's fucked up about the comparison to begin with.
"Christian conservatives" aren't very conservative and don't seem to follow Christ's teachings. They are white nationalists wrapping themselves in a religion that they don't understand.
"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
Omnis Gaulia en tres partes divisa est. The wind in Spain causes rain. Boom boom.Sure, but so what? I don't think you understand it that well. I sure as fuck don't understand it all that well. Jesus and Christianity are genres, so to speak, that people mobilize to shape the world: Scripturam esse nasum caereum; quia converti possit in omnes formas.
No, I am saying they are hypocrites and say they are Christians when doing the exact opposite of what Christ taught. Jesus said a lot about the hypocrisy of the Pharisees and how they posture and say they are following God but do nothing to help their fellow man. It's a real stretch to say calling MAGA and Pubs modern day Phariesses is anti Jewish when not all Jews were like the Pharisees. Jesus was talking about a specific group of people, and that is exactly how MAGA acts today.I think you're saying that Christian conservatives are precisely what they disdain. But to point out this boring hypocrisy you're reinforcing what's fucked up about the comparison to begin with.
No, I am saying they are hypocrites and say they are Christians when doing the exact opposite of what Christ taught. Jesus said a lot about the hypocrisy of the Pharisees and how they posture and say they are following God but do nothing to help their fellow man. It's a real stretch to say calling MAGA and Pubs modern day Phariesses is anti Jewish when not all Jews were like the Pharisees. Jesus was talking about a specific group of people, and that is exactly how MAGA acts today.
Why would JD care about fact checking, he knows the base will not.“… Last month, Vice President JD Vance criticized the U.S. Catholic Church’s efforts to help immigrants and refugees, suggesting the Church is motivated by money, and alleged without evidence that it works with millions of “illegal immigrants.” (Catholic groups spend more money on immigrant services than they receive from the federal government, according to an annual financial audit.) …”
If they really care about churches, just keep church and government separate in every way. Including taxes.“… On Sunday, on the social media site X, right-wing Trump ally Mike Flynn accused Lutheran organizations that receive federal grants to help the needy of committing “money laundering.” Flynn put quote marks around the word “Lutheran” — one of America’s largest Protestant groups — in the post.
Billionaire Elon Musk’s then shared Flynn’s post, calling “illegal” multiple Lutheran organizations that work in the United States to provide health care to homeless people, run food pantries, and help migrants and refugees. “The @DOGE team is rapidly shutting down these illegal payments,” Musk said, referring to his U.S. DOGE Service, also known as the Department of Government Efficiency.
Flynn and Musk did not provide evidence to back up their allegations. A spokesperson for Musk’s DOGE office didn’t respond to a request for comment. …”
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The new right-wing school curriculum in my state plays up evangelical ideas that all you need is a Bible. Don’t know why Catholics aren’t more angry.So they are going after Catholics, huh?
Leonard Leo, how's the leopard spittle on your face taste?