Trump Catch-All | Trump threatens to take back Panama Canal & now he wants Greenland (for national security)

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Callatoroy said:
Do you actually think he is planning to take the panama canal? I mean do you seriously think that? How would he do it? He wants something from panama. Likely to stop refugees from coming or help in stemming the flow of drugs. Could be anything. Its the typical trump playbook. Its almost laughable how you guys freak out over something that he isn't even capable of doing. He really does live in your heads rent free. He can literally just post something and your pearls get polished over and over.
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The rhetoric about the Panama Canal is incredibly insulting and dangerous. Why does this man insist on mistreating his allies, often times worse than his enemies? And then we have the chorus of idiots that parrot him "Yeah, what a great idea". Yes of course he wants something (he's too much of a wuss to actually deploy boots), but as leader of the worlds preeminent superpower....throwing stuff at the wall as half baked negotiating ploys is reckless.

Panama has been a team player the last 35 years; its governments are historically very friendly towards the US. Its current government is center right and aligned with the Trump friendly regimes in LatAm. Trump's statement means the Panamanian president will have to defend the canal, and the leftist governments of Lat Am will rush to his side. Panama is one of those countries that runs a huge trade deficit with the US.
 
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CRHeel94 said:
The rhetoric about the Panama Canal is incredibly insulting and dangerous. Why does this man insist on mistreating his allies, often times worse than his enemies? And then we have the chorus of idiots that parrot him "Yeah, what a great idea". Yes of course he wants something (he's too much of a wuss to actually deploy boots), but as leader of the worlds preeminent superpower....throwing stuff at the wall as half baked negotiating ploys is reckless.

Panama has been a team player the last 35 years; its governments are historically very friendly towards the US. Its current government is center right and aligned with the Trump friendly regimes in LatAm. Trump's statement means the Panamanian president will have to defend the canal, and the leftist governments of Lat Am will rush to his side. Panama is one of those countries that runs a huge trade deficit with the US.
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Because Trump needs to be the undisputed leader without a peer in any relationship/organization that he is in. That includes relationships with allies. If an ally doesn't show obvious deference, they will land on Trump's list to try to humiliate.

Personally, I think this is some Trump leveraging Panama to walk away from tax obligations of the Trump Org and some Trump wanting to reduce the fees for US vessels using the Canal. Trumps view seems to be based in large part on hatred of someone he does business with making profit as some of that profit would come from Trump's wallet. People who make profit but don't do business with Trump, he loves their business acumen. The Canal doesn't make enough to move the needle on the US budget/deficit and I cannot see Republicans agreeing to put up with a proposal to own & operate the Canal with US Federal workers given their love for "small" government.
 
farce© said:
That’s not the right question. The important question is “what value is it to Trump?”
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My hunch is that he wants something tied to him that he's confident will be carried on into perpetuity.

Trump's only major accomplishment from his first term is the overturn of Roe v Wade. The problem from a perpetuity perspective is that someday abortion may be legalized again across the country and it's not fully directly tied to him, it was a Supreme Court decision and others share the credit of overturning Roe v Wade by enabling SCOTUS to be able to make the decision. (In fact, Mitch McConnell probably deserves more credit than Trump.)

Trump knows that a lot of things change in politics, but that land gained is rarely returned. Add in his familiarity with real estate and I would guess that he'd like to acquire a major territory so that it can go down as his legacy. (And, of course, he'd likely try to figure out a way to name it or something associated with it after himself.)

That's my theory on his sudden interest in expanding the US.
 
SnoopRob said:
My hunch is that he wants something tied to him that he's confident will be carried on into perpetuity.

Trump's only major accomplishment from his first term is the overturn of Roe v Wade. The problem from a perpetuity perspective is that someday abortion may be legalized again across the country and it's not fully directly tied to him, it was a Supreme Court decision and others share the credit of overturning Roe v Wade by enabling SCOTUS to be able to make the decision. (In fact, Mitch McConnell probably deserves more credit than Trump.)

Trump knows that a lot of things change in politics, but that land gained is rarely returned. Add in his familiarity with real estate and I would guess that he'd like to acquire a major territory so that it can go down as his legacy. (And, of course, he'd likely try to figure out a way to name it or something associated with it after himself.)

That's my theory on his sudden interest in expanding the US.
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“I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
 
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