I don't think Trump is a rapist or pedo for the reasons I've articulated. I think he's, at most, a crude, sometimes rude, man who occasionally groped women in his past. I'm a mainline Christian and I believe he will have to answer for those sins. I would note, we hired him as our President and Commander in Chief, not our Pope. I think he's an effective leader and Commander in Chief and I think he can be funny at times, but I don't love or worship the guy.
I admit I am willing to put up with a lot I don't personally like about Trump just to avoid the other side being in control. This Country couldn't have stood for another for years of Biden. His border policy alone was borderline treasonous and look at all the trouble it's causing to deport the 10-15M he let bum rush into the Country. Most of ya'll feel the same in reverse (and that's ok), repeatedly stating that you would rather have a diaper wearing, drooling Auto pen Biden for another 4 years than Trump.
Very interesting use of words.
He’s always crude. He should have been dismissed when he made fun of a physically handicapped man. There’s never a moment when he isn’t crude.
“Sometimes” rude? Really? He’s rude in every interaction with the media and at every single campaign rally for over a decade. This isn’t “sometimes”, it’s who he is.
Occasionally, doesn't make it right. How often have you groped women? Is this something that's normal in any situation? NO, rather HELL NO, it isn't. Men should never grope women, it's unacceptable in all situations.
“Mainline Christian”? What is that? Is it what we see in so many who claim to be Christian, but no one can tell from their lifestyle or choices? Those who attend church on Sunday, then curse the homeless instead of helping them on Monday?
Maybe the only thing you said that should be true and I still don’t believe it is: “not our Pope.” Have you read the maga conversations about him? They’ve gone well beyond “Pope”; they’re comparing him to Jesus. So I’m not sure what you voted for, but many maga supporters seem to view him as an anointed second coming of Christ.
Then the last sentence of the first paragraph is just bullshit. You’re smarter than that, though you’re letting your political allegiance cloud your judgment. He is in no way an effective leader, he’s proven that for 50 years. He wasn’t an effective leader in his business dealings, in the companies he drove to bankruptcy, or as president. He’s a horrible leader. He doesn’t believe in consensus or compromise. There’s no win-win with him, he thinks only he should win everything. He acts like a bad mob boss, using threats and hoping fear and intimidation drive his opponents to the negotiating table so he can claim he made a deal.
The first true statement in your post: “I admit I am willing to put up with a lot I don’t personally like about Trump just to avoid the other side being in control.” And you still try to make it sound better than it is. You could have simply said that you’re a sheep and the Republican Party is your shepherd.
And your justification for this is a load of shit. Yes, Biden struggled on immigration at points, but let’s be honest about the policy, not the talking points. Early on, his administration kept and
enforced Title 42 (a Trump-era policy) for over two years, continuing rapid expulsions at the border. After Title 42 ended in 2023, they replaced it with new asylum restrictions that limit eligibility for migrants who don’t use legal entry pathways first. They expanded programs like humanitarian parole for Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans, and Venezuelans to create controlled, legal pathways instead of chaotic crossings. They also increased deportations for those who didn’t qualify and pushed expedited removal processes.
They even attempted bipartisan reform, the 2024 border bill negotiated with Republicans, which would have increased funding for border enforcement, added asylum officers, and given the government authority to shut down crossings during surges. That bill was killed for political reasons, not because there was no attempt to fix the system.
Title 42, a Trump-era policy, was kept in place until May 2023, and during that period there were
2.8 million expulsions, meaning people were being rapidly turned away, often repeatedly attempting to cross again. That inflated the raw “encounter” numbers because the same people were counted multiple times.
Enforcement didn’t disappear. Since FY2021, there have been roughly
1.1 million deportations, putting Biden on pace with Trump-era totals. In FY2024 alone, there were about
685,000 deportations, actually higher than recent projections under Trump. And ICE deportations hit a
10-year high in 2024 (over 270,000 removals).
Third, outcomes matter more than spikes. After policy changes in 2024, like stricter asylum limits and expanded legal pathways, border crossings dropped sharply. Apprehensions fell more than 70% in the second half of 2024 compared to 2023.
And overall, the system processed millions: roughly
2.8 million people were removed or expelled, compared to about
2.5 million released into the U.S. during that period.
So no, he didn’t treat it like a video game or stage performative crackdowns for optics or create his own gestapo. The data shows a mix of enforcement, removals, and policy changes that eventually reduced crossings. Imperfect, sure, but real governance, not theater.
And I don't recall ICE blatantly murdering people until trump took office and encouraged their actions with his own example. (another example of his piss poor leadership skills) So, when a few American citizens were murdered, that’s just acceptable? Since we’re letting racism run rampant? Right—it’s “not about race”…
No, most of us are not simply mirrors of the depravity of maga on the Democratic side.
No, most of us have standards and morals that wouldn’t allow us to vote for a steaming pile of shit like Trump, even if he represented the party we most align with. I voted Republican in the three elections prior to Trump. I couldn’t vote for that steaming pile of shit for any reason, so I didn’t. I didn’t change, the party just threw away everything it ever had and made winning at all cost the top priority.
