Trump / Musk (other than DOGE) Omnibus Thread

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Geisterfahrer said:
I’m not usually a Michelle Goldberg reader but this is a good summary of the whole “grooming gangs” thing if, like me, you have no idea what they’re all talking about. (Gift link)

www.nytimes.com

Opinion | Elon Musk’s Dishonest Demagogy on Grooming Gangs

The billionaire is exploiting old atrocities to undermine his perceived enemies.
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GIFT LINK —> Opinion | Elon Musk’s Dishonest Demagogy on Grooming Gangs

“…If you’ve been on X in recent days, you might have the impression that there has been some major new development in this awful story.

Musk, the platform’s owner, has been posting about it incessantly, smearing Jess Phillips, the Labour minister overseeing issues of violence against women and girls, as a “rape genocide apologist” and calling for her imprisonment. He’s also called for the jailing of Prime Minister Keir Starmer, and urged Britain’s king to dissolve Parliament and call new elections, something the monarch cannot do.

As the world’s richest man and a quasi-official member of Donald Trump’s team, Musk has enormous influence, and his admirers in both the United States and Britain have taken up the cause. Kemi Badenoch, head of the Tories, is demanding a new national investigation, which her party easily could have undertaken when it was in power until last year. Starmer, in turn, was forced to address Musk’s claims on Monday.

In this uproar, we’re seeing a particularly feral right-wing version of an old-fashioned Twitter mob, but with far higher stakes. Musk is using a genuine atrocity to pursue his campaigns against both Starmer, with whom he has a long-running feud over the regulation of social media, and against mass immigration.

The visceral horror of the underlying story — especially to people who are only just discovering it — gives his demagogic attacks a sheen of righteousness.

But much of what’s he’s saying about the current government’s culpability is either distorted or flatly untrue, part of his increasingly vigorous crusade against the world’s remaining liberal leaders. …”
 
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www.politico.eu

‘Greenland belongs to the Greenlanders,’ says Danish PM as Donald Trump Jr. arrives

Mette Frederiksen stresses that America doesn’t call the shots on the strategically important Arctic island’s future.
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Danish PM says Greenland is still not for sale as Donald Trump Jr. arrives​


Mette Frederiksen stresses that America doesn’t call the shots on the strategically important Arctic island’s future.

"...“On one hand, I am really happy regarding the rise in American interest in Greenland,” Frederiksen said in an interview Tuesday with Danish broadcaster TV 2. “But of course it is important that it takes place in a way where it is the Greenlanders’ decision, what their future holds.”


Greenland, the world’s largest island with a population of around 60,000, was a Danish colony until it became self-ruling with its own parliament in 1979. It remains a territory of Denmark, with Copenhagen exercising control over its foreign and defense policy.


As global powers seek to expand their reach and footprint in the Arctic, mineral-rich Greenland — which hosts a U.S. military base — is coveted for its strategic value in security and trade. ..."
 
lawtig02 said:
While reading anything about this storyline is a massive waste of brainwaves, I do find it somewhat amusing that Trump sent his eldest son to Greenland IN JANUARY for a freaking photo op. It won't accomplish anything diplomatically, but it does allow Trump to further humiliate his offspring.
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Reminds me of my favorite holiday greeting meme this year:


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What are the odds of a straight up military invasion and seize of Greenland?

Ttump is an irrational and obsessive simpleton with unfettered access to the most destructive killing force the world has ever seen. He appears to have become fixated on another kid’s toy, and there aren’t adults to prevent him from biting, slapping, and clawing his way into possessing it.
 
HeelingAg said:
What are the odds of a straight up military invasion and seize of Greenland?

Ttump is an irrational and obsessive simpleton with unfettered access to the most destructive killing force the world has ever seen. He appears to have become fixated on another kid’s toy, and there aren’t adults to prevent him from biting, slapping, and clawing his way into possessing it.
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0%. Trump couldn't pull off a military invasion even if he wanted to. This is all theatrics to troll our democratic allies. It arouses his base.
 
lawtig02 said:
0%. Trump couldn't pull off a military invasion even if he wanted to. This is all theatrics to troll our democratic allies. It arouses his base.
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highly improbable, yes, but I reject the 0% chance. ttump is in a different place in life. As narcissistic as he may be, there’s no question he’s felt the reaper inching closer, and what does he have to show for a legacy? Nothing “tangible” (politically) (actually tangible eg the “wall” ain’t impressive, or ideologically eg failing to repeal the ACA), and ttump is minimally capable of viewing complex constructs as legacy making, as is. He’s truly a dense man, with a unique ability to market himself. He’s also obsessed by land/real estate. I think it’s a bit of whistling past the graveyard to think he’s unserious about this Greenland and Canada thing.
 
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HeelingAg said:
highly improbable, yes, but I reject the 0% chance. ttump is in a different place in life. As narcissistic as he may be, there’s no question he’s felt the reaper inching closer, and what does he have to show for a legacy? Nothing “tangible” (actually tangible eg the “wall” ain’t impressive, or ideologically eg failing to repeal the ACA), and ttump is minimally capable of viewing complex constructs as legacy making, as is. He’s truly a dense man, with a unique ability to market himself. He’s also obsessed by land/real estate. I think it’s a bit of whistling past the graveyard to think he’s unserious about this Greenland and Canada thing.
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i liked lawtig's "0% chance" post above but i actually agree with you, i think we take things off the table or give them a 0% chance of happening at our own peril, no matter how seemingly insane.
 


Reporter: Since you won’t rule out military force to take Panama Canal and Greenland, would you use military force to acquire Canada?

Trump: “No. Economic Force. Because Canada and the United States, that would really be something. You get rid of that artificially drawn line and take a look at what that looks like and it would also be much better for national security. You know don’t forget we basically protect Canada. But here’s the problem with Canada … I love the Canadian people, they’re great, but we’re spending hundreds of billions a year to protect it…”
 
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