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donbosco said:
Did we ever get a citation on this data? I need it for class. Students and all...you know?
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With a quick Google, in an interview on NBC with Kristen Welker on May 19, 2024, Li’l Marco claims there are 20-to-25-to-30 million illegal immigrants in the US; and that upwards of 10 million have entered in the last 3 years.

Merrill Matthews makes the 10 million in an opinion piece in The Hill on 1/23/24.
 
PandemicBlue said:
I realize 10 to 20 million people (who knows the real number) from all around the world were allowed, if not encouraged, to simply walk into this country by the Biden administration.

Didn't matter if we were in the middle of a pandemic. Didn't matter if it costs US taxpayers billions upon billions to feed, house, provide healthcare, or educate children. Didn't matter if mixed among the good people were criminals who will, and have, murder, rape, rob, kill in traffic accidents, or run drugs leading to many more untold numbers of deaths and destruction.

Nobody has any idea who has come in or what their intentions are for coming. We are talking about people from all around the world. But many of you on this board don't know about this reality because you chose to get your information from sources who ran cover for likely the worst administration in this country's history. Or you do know but are so loyal to the Democratic Party that you are willing to ignore the reality of the situation.

If there were 330 million Americans and we just added 15 million more over the past 4 years that means 1 out of every 23 people you see anywhere in this country walked across the border over the past 4 years.....1 out of every 23. That's 1.5 times the population of the entire state of NC. Trump would have to deport 10,000 immigrants every single day of his 4 years to reach 15 million. That tells you how many were allowed to walk or be flown in every single day of the Biden Administration. And how much coverage did the arbiters of truth like CNN or MSNBC give to this massive invasion? I'll leave it to the people who actually watch those propaganda networks to answer that question. The damage done by Joe Biden will never be remedied.
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You actually believe this shit? JFC.
 
Zoo_View said:
With a quick Google, in an interview on NBC with Kristen Welker on May 19, 2024, Li’l Marco claims there are 20-to-25-to-30 million illegal immigrants in the US; and that upwards of 10 million have entered in the last 3 years.

Merrill Matthews makes the 10 million in an opinion piece in The Hill on 1/23/24.
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Students are taught better than to accept those sorts of assertions. That quick Google surely produced links of some sort that I can share with them?
 
farce© said:
You actually believe this shit? JFC.
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Agree. The numbers were high, but the normal process was followed for those coming to a port of entry. They got in line, were detained, vetted, screened etc.

Some were allowed into the US. Others weren't.
 

Trump administration may pull money from TSA, Coast Guard to help ICE afford costly deportations​

The average cost to ICE to deport a single person during the Biden administration was about $10,500, sources told NBC News.

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Trump administration may pull money from TSA, Coast Guard to help fund costly deportations

The average cost to ICE to deport a single person during the Biden administration was about $10,500, sources told NBC News.
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“… The administration is also looking at the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) and the Coast Guard as possible areas from which to take money to give ICE.

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The executive branch is allowed to move money appropriated by Congress from one agency to another within a department, and the Trump administration would not be the first to do so to make up for an ICE budget shortfall.

Spokespeople for the Department of Homeland Security, ICE and the White House did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

ICE was facing a $230 million budget shortfall even before Trump took office and ramped up deportations, when it averaged around 282 arrests per day. On Sunday, ICE arrested more than 1,200 people, according to a senior DHS official, and senior leaders at ICE have been told the agency must continue to arrest 1,200 to 1,500 people per day.

A former and a current DHS official told NBC News that during the Biden administration the average cost to ICE to deport a single person was about $10,500, starting with the arrest through the person’s time in detention and onto a flight back to the person’s home country. …”
 
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“… A Government Accountability Office report in May found that from 2014 to 2023, DHS — under which ICE, the TSA, CISA and the Coast Guard all fall — had notified Congress that it planned to move a total of $1.8 billion to help parts of ICE that needed more money. Some of that came from other parts of ICE, but most came from other agencies, including the TSA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Coast Guard.

Cuts to TSA could be met with backlash if they led to longer lines at airports and impact travelers. Trump has publicly criticized the other agencies apparently contemplated as funding sources. He has gone after CISA for weighing in on what it deemed to be misinformation surrounding the 2020 presidential election. He also abruptly fired the commandant of the Coast Guard upon taking office.

Congress must be notified of such transfers, and there are limits on how much can be transferred. For example, according to a 2023 Congressional Research Service report, in fiscal year 2023, up to 5% of any DHS appropriation could be moved elsewhere within DHS, so long as the recipient’s budget as originally set by Congress didn’t increase by more than 10%. …”
 

Pentagon Allows ICE to Use Colorado Military Base to Detain Migrants​

The decision to allow law enforcement officers to use facilities at Buckley Space Force Base in Aurora, Colo., plunges the U.S. military deeper into President Trump’s order to secure the southwestern border.

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Pentagon Allows ICE to Use Colorado Military Base to Detain Migrants

The decision to allow law enforcement officers to use facilities at Buckley Space Force Base in Aurora, Colo., plunges the U.S. military deeper into President Trump’s order to secure the southwestern border.
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“… Law enforcement officers began using facilities at Buckley Space Force Base in Aurora, Colo., on Monday, plunging the military deeper into President Trump’s order to secure the southwestern border.

No military personnel are to be involved in processing and detaining “criminal aliens within the U.S.,” the Northern Command said in a statement. But deportation officers will benefit from the sprawling base’s infrastructure and overall security.

The immigration service requested and received “a temporary operations center, staging area, and a temporary holding location for the receiving, holding, and processing of illegal aliens,” according to the Northern Command.

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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said on Monday, his first full official day on the job, that “whatever is needed at the border will be provided.” He did not rule out Mr. Trump invoking the Insurrection Act, a law more than 200 years old, to allow the use of the armed forces for law enforcement duty, which is otherwise barred.

About 1,600 Marines and Army soldiers have arrived near the Mexican border in California and Texas in the past week, joining 2,500 Army reservists called to active duty who were already there. More troops are expected to deploy to the border in the coming days, Pentagon officials say.“
 

Trump deported 200 Colombians. None were criminals, Colombian officials say.​

Among the deportees who arrived back home Tuesday in Colombia were two pregnant women and more than 20 children.


“President Donald Trumpthreatened to punish Colombia with tariffs, a travel ban and other sanctions to compel it to accept deportation flights carrying “Illegal Criminals.” But Colombian officials said there were no criminals among the two planeloads of migrants the U.S. government sent over Tuesday.

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“They are not criminals,” Luis Gilberto Murillo, Colombia’s foreign minister, said in a video statement posted on X. “Being a migrant is not a crime.”

The social media standoff between Colombian President Gustavo Petro and Trump erupted over the weekend as the new U.S. administration attempted to launch the largest domestic deportation operation in American history. In the end, Trump dropped his trade threats after Colombia agreed to the flights.

… White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said at a briefing Tuesday that the administration considers “all” immigrants who are in the United States illegally to be criminals.

“They illegally broke our nation’s laws and, therefore, they are criminals as far as this administration goes,” she said, calling the declaration a “big culture shift in our nation.

Deportation is a civil, not criminal, proceeding.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement reported last year that people with criminal histories accounted for only 8 percent of the immigrants it was tracking for possible removal.

… In interviews with local media in Bogotá, some who were sent back said they had recently crossed the U.S.-Mexico border illegally and were quickly picked up and sent home.

Though recent border crossers have long been a priority for removal, including under the Biden administration, federal records show most border crossers do not have criminal records.

… The White House has been posting orange-framed mug shots of people arrested in cities such as Houston, Baltimore and Seattle, sometimes without names, making it difficult to independently verify their criminal records. …”
 
politicalwire.com

Trump Is Using the Same Playbook

Donald Trump’s first ten days back in the White House have been nothing short of a whirlwind. He’s once again “flooding the zone,” keeping his base energized while leaving opponents scrambling to keep up. And
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“… It’s the same playbook he ran in 2017.

As the New York Times reported then:

Before taking office, Mr. Trump told top aides to think of each presidential day as an episode in a television show in which he vanquishes rivals.

People close to him estimate that Mr. Trump spends at least four hours a day, and sometimes as much as twice that, in front of a television, sometimes with the volume muted, marinating in the no-holds-barred wars of cable news and eager to fire back.
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That’s probably the best way to understand Trump. …”
 
“… The subject line of the email to federal employees was “Fork in the Road,” the same subject line of an ultimatum message Elon Musk sent to his employees at Twitter in 2022.

On the campaign trail, Musk frequently talked about downsizing the federal government. He has played an integral part in the rollout of the federal government buyout, an official told CNN, through his position leading the Department of Government Efficiency in the Trump administration.

“We will reduce a lot of government headcount, but we’re going to give very long severances,” Musk told a Philadelphia rally in October. “Like two years, or something like that.”…”




 
“… The subject line of the email to federal employees was “Fork in the Road,” the same subject line of an ultimatum message Elon Musk sent to his employees at Twitter in 2022.

On the campaign trail, Musk frequently talked about downsizing the federal government. He has played an integral part in the rollout of the federal government buyout, an official told CNN, through his position leading the Department of Government Efficiency in the Trump administration.

“We will reduce a lot of government headcount, but we’re going to give very long severances,” Musk told a Philadelphia rally in October. “Like two years, or something like that.”…”




 
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