Trump / Musk (other than DOGE) Omnibus Thread

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Why would I answer this? You aren’t here for a good-faith discussion or argument. Your mind is already made up. You guzzle right wing propaganda and want to pass it off as fact. You aren’t interested in discussing nuances or anything that doesn’t fully reinforce your views. That’s why your posts are being met with mockery- because everyone here knows your playbook.

I like to talk a lot of smack, but more than anything else I am always more than happy and even thrilled to have nuanced policy discussions, debates, and disagreements. I read all sorts of stuff, from conservative think tankers to liberal think tankers to progressive think tankers. I love to nerd out on this stuff. But you and none of the rest of the Trump supporters on this board are here for that, because you aren’t here to discuss and debate. You’re here to peddle propaganda and get mad and screech and scream about Joe Biden.
Why take two paragraphs to avoid a question when you could simply point out the inaccuracies of any of my claims and that would be it? The reason why you don't is because you can't. You know everything I posted is correct. Humor me and prove me wrong....did any of the claims I made not actually happen during Biden's presidency?
 
Nobody is ignoring anyone in the mountains of Western NC. But I understand that it suits your narrative better to make up facts because confronting the truth would mean acknowledging that you've been fleeced for years by our country's most legendary con man.
It will never stop being crazy to me that folks think billionaires are going to be the saviors of the poor.
 
Trump adjacent/worship stupidity in the U.S. House



At least “Freedom Fries” had alliteration in their favor.


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What world do you live in? Where do you think the billions that New York has spent on migrants has gone to?
Copied from an nyc post:

Elon made the claim about “luxury” hotels with zero proof.

“… It was not clear where the $59 million figure came from, and officials did not provide details to AP.

The New York City mayor’s office said it received $81 million in payments from the federal government for immigration-related costs last week in two separate pieces — one of which was about $59 million, with $19 million for direct hotel costs.

New York City's right-to-shelter laws require the city to provide shelter to anyone who's homeless. It has historically housed homeless people in hotels.

… In another post Monday, Musk said that under the Biden administration, FEMA took money away from disaster relief and “spent it on 5 star hotels for illegals.”

Garcia said the city has never paid luxury rates. The vast majority are outside Manhattan, and the government has paid on average $152 a night for rooms, according to a 2024 city comptroller report. In comparison, 5-star hotels in Manhattan for the coming weekend run from $400 a night to well over $1,000.

The payments of $81 million, Garcia said, covered reimbursements for November 2023 to October 2024, including hotel, security, food, and other costs. She said the city applied in April, the money was appropriated last year by Congress, and FEMA allocated it last year
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abcnews.go.com

FEMA says it's halting payments for migrant housing in New York after Musk blasts money for hotels

The acting head of the federal agency responsible for responding to disasters says he’s suspending payments sent to New York City to house migrants and that staff who made them will be held accountable
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America is growing tired of the party who thinks it is fine to ignore American citizens in the mountains of NC while they live in tents while at the same time, tries to sneak $59 million out the back door of the EPA to send to New York in order to provide luxury accommodations to people who are not only not American citizens, but who are also here illegally. That on top of the billions already spent. And this is only one example of the many.

But by all means Democrats, keep doing you. Keep exposing what is really important to your party. America needs to know.
I agree, I am tired of Republicans who defunded FEMA a week prior to Helene and then made up lies when pressed about it.
 
Why take two paragraphs to avoid a question when you could simply point out the inaccuracies of any of my claims and that would be it? The reason why you don't is because you can't. You know everything I posted is correct. Humor me and prove me wrong....did any of the claims I made not actually happen during Biden's presidency?
Literally everything you ever post is inaccurate, chief. Why would I waste my time responding to them point-by-point? I'd do it if I thought it might help change your mind or at the very least open your mind to considering other possibilities, but it won't, so I won't. I'm not here to humor you. I'm here to tell you that everything you post is steeped in the dumbest, most easily refuted right wing propaganda bullshit that the internet has to offer. I don't care how that makes you feel.
 
How do we know MAGAs agree that Trump is violating the Constitution?
They talk about Biden instead.
Why take two paragraphs to avoid a question when you could simply point out the inaccuracies of any of my claims and that would be it? The reason why you don't is because you can't. You know everything I posted is correct. Humor me and prove me wrong....did any of the claims I made not actually happen during Biden's presidency?
By your own logic, you are avoiding what this thread is about because you know Trump is violating the Constitution.
 
Literally everything you ever post is inaccurate, chief. Why would I waste my time responding to them point-by-point? I'd do it if I thought it might help change your mind or at the very least open your mind to considering other possibilities, but it won't, so I won't. I'm not here to humor you. I'm here to tell you that everything you post is steeped in the dumbest, most easily refuted right wing propaganda bullshit that the internet has to offer. I don't care how that makes you feel.
It's really true. Like I started to provide links to data that showed his points are BS, but then I thought what's the point? He's allergic to learning.
 
He's terrible at it. Dumb bastard even let on that I got in his head. What self respecting troll would do that? Just pitiful.
Not surprising that a person who resorts to personal insults would also think far too highly of themselves. Responding in-kind doesn't mean you get into my head. It's literally just a tit-for tat to make you aware that you're a prick and that I know you're a prick.
 
It's really true. Like I started to provide links to data that showed his points are BS, but then I thought what's the point? He's allergic to learning.
Exactly. I'd be more than happy to provide points of rebuttal line by line if I thought that it wouldn't be the biggest waste of time I've ever committed.
 
It's really true. Like I started to provide links to data that showed his points are BS, but then I thought what's the point? He's allergic to learning.
Yeah, I've posted most of that stuff already from immigration to drug trafficking from neutral and/or right leaning sources. I'm not going to continue to spoon feed mouth breathing MAGATs to no point. That's especially true when they NEVER provide any sort of real links other than the blathering of some cheap political whore.
 
Not surprising that a person who resorts to personal insults would also think far too highly of themselves. Responding in-kind doesn't mean you get into my head. It's literally just a tit-for tat to make you aware that you're a prick and that I know you're a prick.
What personal insult? You took umbrage because you acted like you had a less than third grade understanding of civics so I responded to you in kind. Don't play naif and then demand respect.
 
Yeah, I've posted most of that stuff already from immigration to drug trafficking from neutral and/or right leaning sources. I'm not going to continue to spoon feed mouth breathing MAGATs to no point. That's especially true when they NEVER provide any sort of real links other than the blathering of some cheap political whore.
Same thing happened during COVID. They simply don't care what the facts are, and are willing to literally die to preserve their ignorance.
 
"You’d prefer they are “housed” on the street?'

No straw-manning allowed. Please try again.
You’re just going to disregard the rest of the post, huh? You know, the whole part of it being legal, approved, and the money congressionally funded?

And you appear to be complaining that taxpayers are paying for this, so my question was perfectly appropriate. What’s your solution?
 
America is growing tired of the party who thinks it is fine to ignore American citizens in the mountains of NC while they live in tents while at the same time, tries to sneak $59 million out the back door of the EPA to send to New York in order to provide luxury accommodations to people who are not only not American citizens, but who are also here illegally. That on top of the billions already spent. And this is only one example of the many.

But by all means Democrats, keep doing you. Keep exposing what is really important to your party. America needs to know.
When was the last time you went to the mountains to help?
 
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