Trump / Musk (other than DOGE) Omnibus Thread

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superrific said:
I agree, but you're underselling the APA. It's not a "frequently used tool." It literally structures our executive agencies. Every time an agency does anything, the APA is implicated and until now, the agencies at least followed the procedures the APA lays out.

The Comstock Act is an obscure law. The APA is the backbone of our government. There's a reason why law schools have whole courses devoted to studying it, and those are lecture classes, often for 2Ls.
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I know these journos are taking their jobs seriously and trying their best, but articles like this seriously make me question the education that journalism majors receive.

This is usually most evident to me when they start getting into history. I imagine anyone who has a modicum of expertise in a field has the same experience reading articles like this. Not sure what the solution is.
 
nycfan said:
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I can’t imagine that that would be very successful. Trump could fire every DOGE employee at the drop of a hat.

DOGE couldn’t resist because Musk has no political power outside of his connection with Trump. Trump could turn 90% of MAGA on Musk with a few words.

Musk may think he is operating a coup but he doesn’t have the real power he thinks he has.

if that is his intention it would be a long term project. Trump isn’t keeping Musk around for the long term.

I really think Musk will be Rohm’d, especially after X said to Trump that he isn’t the president and needs to go.
 
Callatoroy said:
Actually its the opposite of my argument. Biden's use was terrible and enabled trump's abuse. So far, trump's use is as bad and likely to get worse. My comments, knowing the characters on this board, were to preemptively call out the hypocrisy that was sure to follow.
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It was hard to tell because there wasn't actually any condemnation of Trump's pardons in your previous post, just calling other folks out for being hypocrites.

It is clearer in this one that you do acknowledge that Trump's pardons are problematic.



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roostra said:
It was hard to tell because there wasn't actually any condemnation of Trump's pardons in your previous post, just calling other folks out for being hypocrites.

It is clearer in this one that you do acknowledge that Trump's pardons are problematic.



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I had previously stated several times I disagreed with his blanket pardons and for where I think he will abuse the power in the future.
 

Mass firings have begun at federal agencies​



Mass firings have begun at federal agencies, with terminations of probationary employees underway at the Department of Education and the Small Business Administration, federal employees and union sources told CNN Wednesday.

The mass firings mark the first from the Trump administration as President Donald Trump and Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency aim to dramatically shrink the federal workforce. Until now, federal employees across all government agencies had only been placed on paid administrative leave.
 
“… In a little over three weeks in office, Mr. Trump’s Justice Department has dropped a case against former Representative Jeffrey Fortenberry of Nebraska, who was charged with lying to the F.B.I. in an investigation of illegal campaign donations, and federal prosecutors withdrew from a campaign finance investigation of Representative Andy Ogles, Republican of Tennessee, leaving the future of the case uncertain.

Just this week, the department also moved to drop bribery charges against Mayor Eric Adams of New York, who has cozied up to Mr. Trump since the election.

Mr. Trump pardoned former Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich of Illinois, who was convicted of a scheme to sell an appointment to the U.S. Senate.

The president has nominated Charles Kushner, the father of his son-in-law Jared Kushner, to be ambassador to France despite a conviction for tax evasion and witness retaliation. (Mr. Trump commuted Mr. Blagojevich’s sentence and pardoned Mr. Kushner in his first term.)

The re-elected president also fired as many as 17 inspectors general from around the government, purging the very officials whose mission is to uncover the kind of waste and abuse that Mr. Trump says he is out to eradicate. In so doing, he defied the provisions of law governing the dismissal of such inspectors, prompting a lawsuit Wednesday by some of those who were fired.…”
 
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Two MPD Officers Sentenced for 2020 Murder of Karon Hylton-Brown and Subsequent Coverup​


“Terence D. Sutton Jr., 40, a Fourth District police officer, was sentenced today to 66 months in prison and Andrew Zabavsky, 56, an MPD lieutenant, was sentenced to 48 months in prison, in connection with an unauthorized police pursuit that ended in a collision on Oct. 23, 2020, that caused the death of Karon Hylton-Brown, 20, in Northwest Washington D.C. The sentencing was announced by U.S. Attorney Matthew M. Graves and FBI Acting Special Agent in Charge David Geist of the Washington Field Office.

Sutton was found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt by a unanimous federal jury on December 21, 2022, following a nine-week trial, of second-degree murder, conspiracy to obstruct, and obstruction of justice. The same jury found Zabavsky guilty of conspiracy to obstruct and obstruction of justice. In addition to the prison terms, U.S. District Court Judge Paul L. Friedman ordered each defendant to serve three years of supervised release. …”

Trump pardons two D.C. officers convicted in fatal chase and cover-up​

David Shurtz, an attorney representing the estate of Karon Hylton-Brown, 20, said the president’s decision was “outrageous” and “ill-advised.”

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Trump pardons two D.C. officers convicted in fatal chase and cover-up

David Shurtz, an attorney representing the estate of Karon Hylton-Brown, 20, said the president’s decision was “outrageous” and “ill-advised.”
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“… ‘They were arrested, put in jail for five years because they went after an illegal,’ Trump said Tuesday.

‘And I guess something happened where something went wrong, and they arrested the two officers and put them in jail for going after a criminal.’ …”
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So now as long as you're going after a "criminal" you can kill them without worry of prosecution.

Trump wants every day to be the purge.
 
Callatoroy said:
No need. I made my point (at least from my pov). Pardons are a dark stain on biden and trump comes along and says hold my beer. Just disgusting all the way around. I'm normally a traditionalist and not in favor of changing much in the way of our g'ment as in ending the filibuster, etc. But after joe and donald I would like to see pardon reform because neither could be entrusted with the privilege.
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Biden being wrong or overusing pardons doesn't make trump's actions acceptable.

Biden is gone, we are living with the current administration and how they are fucking up the country.
 
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