Trump / Musk (other than DOGE) Omnibus Thread

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CallMeTyler said:
Then compound the cost of deportation with the impact to our economy, which is estimated to be approx. $88B annually.
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Do you have a link to that estimate? I think the impact will be considerably larger than $88B. It's possible that the $88B is the GDP produced by the deported people, which is way less than the true cost because it doesn't take account of disruptions.

If meat packing pants close or reduce output significantly, there will be a GDP hit to the entire community. And there will be a GDP hit to restaurants who can't serve food that they can't buy, to grocery stores who can't sell food that doesn't exist, and so on.
 
superrific said:
Do you have a link to that estimate? I think the impact will be considerably larger than $88B. It's possible that the $88B is the GDP produced by the deported people, which is way less than the true cost because it doesn't take account of disruptions.

If meat packing pants close or reduce output significantly, there will be a GDP hit to the entire community. And there will be a GDP hit to restaurants who can't serve food that they can't buy, to grocery stores who can't sell food that doesn't exist, and so on.
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Make sure you type correctly, especially after admonishing me for my mistake about Syria.
 
TarSpiel said:
It's true that the "American people" are sick of the left? Then why does the left often win the popular vote in elections?

The fact is, whenever a political describes what "the American people" want, he's referring to 30-40% of them.
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You’re right. Keep on running on transgender rights and undermining parents. Keep on “defunding”. Keep on with your open borders policies. Expand your wokeness. Find ever new ways to to attack those who disagree with you with “ists”, “ots”, and “phobics”. All of that is working so well for you. 90% of this board is so whacked out that you think your arrogance and condescension is somehow charismatic in the eyes of voters.
 
Enigma94 said:
If you voted for Trump that's not what you voted
Badbehavior1015 said:
I believe the deportation of illegals should start in the prisons. Deport them first, then go after homeless illegals. IMO, if an illegal can show they are working and are being productive, they should be given the opportunity to apply for citizenship at that time.
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Note remotely fair to those who are in line legally. Why would you reward people for cutting in line?
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CallMeTyler said:
Estimates of $300B to execute Trump's plan (that's taxpayer funded) which we know won't be well thought out (see border wall). Then compound the cost of deportation with the impact to our economy, which is estimated to be approx. $88B annually.

Then you include the impact to families.

See where this goes?
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Thanks Joe. Trump had it under control but you just couldn’t help yourself thinking about all those future dem voters moving into red states. Now we have to spend $300B to clean up his mess.
 
Taking the low end of their estimate that 20-25 million illegal immigrants are in the country, they’ll need to deport an average of more than 400,000 people per month during Trump’s 48 month term.
 
Callatoroy said:
Why do you think Biden ended “wait in Mexico”? It seemed to work.
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He didn't. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals did, and then the pandemic.

Why do you insist on spouting BS, when it has been explained to you so many times? You can't wish away the fact that Remain In Mexico was an unlawful policy. That's why the bipartisan legislation was necessary. All of Trump's bullshit was illegal and contrary to law.
 
1moretimeagain said:
Taking the low end of their estimate that 20-25 million illegal immigrants are in the country, they’ll need to deport an average of more than 400,000 people per month during Trump’s 48 month term.
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How many people did the Nazis shuttle to concentration and/or death camps over the four years after the Final Solution? The Khmer Rouge moved about a million people out of the cities in a matter of months.

The point is that deportation capacity depends in large measure on a) willingness to follow rules; and b) commitment of resources. If Trump tries hard enough, 400,000 deportations will be easy.
 
1moretimeagain said:
Taking the low end of their estimate that 20-25 million illegal immigrants are in the country, they’ll need to deport an average of more than 400,000 people per month during Trump’s 48 month term.
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And that assumes that they can stop all ingress.
 
superrific said:
How many people did the Nazis shuttle to concentration and/or death camps over the four years after the Final Solution? The Khmer Rouge moved about a million people out of the cities in a matter of months.

The point is that deportation capacity depends in large measure on a) willingness to follow rules; and b) commitment of resources. If Trump tries hard enough, 400,000 deportations will be easy.
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Do you really think Trumps going to kill illegals by shuttling them to concentration camps?
 
superrific said:
He didn't. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals did, and then the pandemic.

Why do you insist on spouting BS, when it has been explained to you so many times? You can't wish away the fact that Remain In Mexico was an unlawful policy. That's why the bipartisan legislation was necessary. All of Trump's bullshit was illegal and contrary to law.
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Trump wanted to run on the problem, rather than allow bipartisan progress while Biden was in office. He actively worked to block border security legislation.
He's gotten what he wanted. It's now his problem. I'm waiting breathlessly for his solution, because mass deportations will be an absolute sh!tstorm if that is all he's got.
 
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Badbehavior1015 said:
Do you really think Trumps going to kill illegals by shuttling them to concentration camps?
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No, I do not. Do you see any words in my post that predict such a thing? The point is that huge numbers of people can be moved quickly if the will exists for it to happen.

Given what Stephen Miller and others have been expressly describing, I think it's fair to think that they have in mind something like concentration camps. Or maybe the Warsaw ghetto. Probably not death camps, one would hope.
 
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