Trump / Musk (other than DOGE) Omnibus Thread

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altmin said:
Media is saying Colombia backed down, but didn't the Trump admin basically agree to going back to how things were under Biden, with Colombia handling the flights?

That sure doesn't sound like Colombia backing down.
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I don't think we were using military planes during the Biden years - that seems to be the main difference now
 
BlooVooDoo said:
Non-proliferation will die under Trump. All of the countries you mentioned should strongly consider starting a nuclear weapons program ASAP.
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Hell, North Korea could make a fortune selling theirs at this point.
 
BoonetheAiredale said:
Flexing in the mirror after a set of curls is so much easier than getting to the business of working out and changing your body.

American policy now is so much flexing in the mirror.
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great analogy, lol.

actually changing your body takes YEARS of consistency and discipline.

this admin is wildly inconsistent and undisciplined and won't dedicate themselves to years of anything except grifting.
 
farce© said:
If you use the purchase of Alaska as a template, first a treaty must be executed between the US and the current owner (Russia in the case of Alaska.) Then the US Senate must approve all treaties (which they did 37-2 in the case of Alaska.)
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That was when the Constitution mattered. Duh…
 
4thgenheel said:
great analogy, lol.

actually changing your body takes YEARS of consistency and discipline.

this admin is wildly inconsistent and undisciplined and won't dedicate themselves to years of anything except grifting.
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Using the analogy above, instead of common sense methods that have a history of working, this admin uses one infomercial product after another expecting amazing results in 30 days or less.
 
Callatoroy said:
Could trump legally buy Greenland through ex. order or would he have to have congressional approval. I would think congressional approval.
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I think that would be up to Denmark, as they are the owner of Greenland. And I don't think they have any interest in selling it. I know that probably means nothing to you and your ilk however. Go ahead, try to take it from them. It'll be yet another riveting page in the great MAGA legacy, which future generations of schoolkids will learn about in history class as "the dark days of America."
 
lawtig02 said:
Or, to put it a different way, this is what happened.

Trump: We're going to do things a new way.

Colombia: No, keep doing things how they've been done for years.

Trump: WE'RE GOING TO KILL YOUR ECONOMY!!!

Colombia: How about we just agree we'll do things how they've been done for years?

Trump: Ok, we'll do things how they've been done for years, and we won't kill your economy.

Colombia: Ok, thanks.

Trump: WHAT A BUNCH OF FUCKING PUSSIES!!!! WE'RE WINNING SO HARD I MIGHT NEED ANOTHER ADDERALL!!!
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Thanks. Now Chris Steel has no excuse for being an ignoramus.
Much better than my snark. You done went and edumacated his arse.
 
Trump scored a win for his base.
Petro scored a win for his base (much needed at this point).
Nothing much changed on a material basis. Deporation flights have always taken place.

But the rest of LatAm has noticed. And I suspect the Euros and Asians will take note.
The lesson: America is not your friend.

No one likes a bully. Even allies will be wary.
America First will turn into America Only.
The risk of a global trade war is real.
 
BlooVooDoo said:
Non-proliferation will die under Trump. All of the countries you mentioned should strongly consider starting a nuclear weapons program ASAP.
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When the euros decide to break away and take care of their own defense, they will have to beef up their defense industries.
 
4thgenheel said:
great analogy, lol.

actually changing your body takes YEARS of consistency and discipline.

this admin is wildly inconsistent and undisciplined and won't dedicate themselves to years of anything except grifting.
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And the public will never punish them for it because most people are blind to anything except immediate consequences.
 
CRHeel94 said:
Trump scored a win for his base.
Petro scored a win for his base (much needed at this point).
Nothing much changed on a material basis. Deporation flights have always taken place.

But the rest of LatAm has noticed. And I suspect the Euros and Asians will take note.
The lesson: America is not your friend.

No one likes a bully. Even allies will be wary.
America First will turn into America Only.
The risk of a global trade war is real.
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I will say this again, and it's probably the closest I come to believing in a conspiracy theory: I think this is what a certain group of Trump's new tech allies - in particular Peter Thiel - want. They want a global trade war. They want global conflict (maybe even a global shooting war). They want the devaluation of the dollar and they want the power and prestige of the American government to fall. They want a new world order with technocrats standing above any and every world government. And sowing global distrust, chaos, and disorder is the way they think they can do it.
 
rodoheel said:
I will say this again, and it's probably the closest I come to believing in a conspiracy theory: I think this is what a certain group of Trump's new tech allies - in particular Peter Thiel - want. They want a global trade war. They want global conflict (maybe even a global shooting war). They want the devaluation of the dollar and they want the power and prestige of the American government to fall. They want a new world order with technocrats standing above any and every world government. And sowing global distrust, chaos, and disorder is the way they think they can do it.
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Yikes
 
rodoheel said:
I will say this again, and it's probably the closest I come to believing in a conspiracy theory: I think this is what a certain group of Trump's new tech allies - in particular Peter Thiel - want. They want a global trade war. They want global conflict (maybe even a global shooting war). They want the devaluation of the dollar and they want the power and prestige of the American government to fall. They want a new world order with technocrats standing above any and every world government. And sowing global distrust, chaos, and disorder is the way they think they can do it.
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The average person doesn’t have the ability to project the behavior of sociopaths, because the concept of “there is no bottom” is baffling to most.
 
Callatoroy said:
Agree with almost everything you posted. Only thing I would question is your judgement in using a UNC bball analogy. In most years that would be appropriate but in 2025 a UNC bball analogy might not represent the sentiment you are wanting to convey.

I’m not a fan of the stick before the carrot but that is his style. Very mafiaish and not allowing anyone to save face doesn’t promote good will but then maybe he felt it best to use that instance to send a FAFO message. I agree way more with his desired destination than his route to get there.
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That is why I specified 2008-2009. IIRC the beat-down on UNCA that year was insane. Over 50 point margin.
 

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Trump did not "win" this. He's given the Latin Americans something to rally around in opposition to him and for what? Never before has so little been won and the term "victory" applied. It's like a movie scene where a dejected crowd wills its way to resistance as one person stands up, and another, and another. Lula tells Trump no. Petro tells him no. Sheinbaum tells him no.

The subject matter doesn't matter. Trump just gave Latin American countries the opportunity to publicly communicate with each other, saying in effect "We've got your back against the Americans."

Meanwhile, Trump backed down by allowing no shackling (which was the primary point of conflict) and broadcast to the world that he is scared. Because, deep down, underneath the dementia fog and the residue from a decade of gaslighting everyone including himself, he knows that Americans really don't want to pay more for roses and coffee. Not for his ego. He will never admit it that way, probably not even to himself, but he knows it.
 
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