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milom98 said:
Letting Trump punch himself out is a sound strategy, until you realize rightwing media setup the fight, are refereeing the fight, are scoring the fight, are working Trump's corner and legacy media is in the other corner looking like Glass Joe getting ready to get knocked out in round one. I mean, how many times since 2016 should Trump have punched himself out?

For Trump to punch himself out, it's going to take a crowd that can see through all the bs. And if his entrance into the the 2024 election ring didn't do it, then I don't know what will (maybe crashing the economy).

Carville: Democrats need to let Trump ‘punch himself out’​



Democratic strategist James Carville said Democrats need to let President Trump “punch himself out.”

In remarks on MSNBC on Friday, Carville recalled Muhammad Ali, noting he would go six or seven rounds before coming in and “launching bombs.”

“What we have to learn is, Democrats: Just let him punch himself out,” Carville said in the interview with MSNBC’s Katie Phang.

Carville argued it’s difficult to let Trump hurt himself politically as he continues to highlight “distractions” such as acquiring Greenland.

“But you just got to keep bobbing and weaving and bobbing and weaving,” he said. “And then, in due course, you’re going to be able to come in.”

Carville said Trump’s biggest problem is going to be following through on something he campaigned on: lowering the costs facing Americans.

“Of course, eggs are $4 and something a dozen,” Carville said. “And he keeps distracting us and we keep getting distracted.”

“But we’ll come back, and we’ll all straddle this target and get it in writing before long, I think,” he conclude

Trump touted his economic agenda and the price of gas and eggs on the campaign trail. He now must follow through on those promises, Carville said
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I usually like the Ragin’ Cajun. If the Democrats had a peak Muhammad Ali ready to start launching bombs, I’d have hope for an Ali v. Foreman result.

The Democrats look to have a bunch of Chuck Wepners and Jerry Quarrys ready to fight Ali.

Also, it’s not Trump orchestrating this political and media blitz. The Conservative leadership remembers how inept Trump was in 2017-21.

Project 2025 exists for a reason; and, right-wing True Believers are leading this effort.
 
Wheels81 said:
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The man told CBS News Miami that he wanted Mr. Trump to let his wife stay in the U.S., as their 11th anniversary is on Friday.

When asked if she was in the process of getting her U.S. citizenship, the man told CBS News Miami that she was right in the middle of it. The man's wife, who's Venezuelan and has lived in the U.S. for a few years, had a court date set up and "everything was good" until that moment.

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ZenMode said:
The man told CBS News Miami that he wanted Mr. Trump to let his wife stay in the U.S., as their 11th anniversary is on Friday.

When asked if she was in the process of getting her U.S. citizenship, the man told CBS News Miami that she was right in the middle of it. The man's wife, who's Venezuelan and has lived in the U.S. for a few years, had a court date set up and "everything was good" until that moment.

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This might shock you . . . but the man might not have been living in the US when he met and married her.
 

Caroline Kennedy warns senators of ‘predator’ RFK Jr. in searing letter​

The former ambassador urged senators to reject Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s nomination, questioning his ethics and views on vaccines.


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Caroline Kennedy warned senators Tuesday about Robert F. Kennedy Jr., calling her cousin — now President Donald Trump’s nominee to lead the Department of Health and Human Services — a “predator” whose victims have ranged from family members to the parents of sick children.

In a copy of a letter obtained by The Washington Post and sent to lawmakers ahead of Kennedy’s confirmation hearings to lead the Department of Health and Human Services, the former ambassador to Australia and Japan alleges that her cousin, “addicted to attention and power,” has given hypocritical advice by discouraging parents from vaccinating their children while vaccinating his own children. She alleged that his “crusade against vaccination” has also served to enrich him.

“I have known Bobby my whole life; we grew up together,” Caroline Kennedy wrote. “It’s no surprise that he keeps birds of prey as pets because he himself is a predator.”

… Caroline Kennedy goes on to claim in her letter that through “the strength of his personality,” other family members followed Kennedy “down the path of drug addiction.”

“His basement, his garage, his dorm room were the centers of the action where drugs were available, and he enjoyed showing off how he put baby chickens and mice in the blender to feed his hawks. It was often a perverse scene of despair and violence.”
She commended Kennedy for “pulling himself out of illness and disease” but lamented the “siblings and cousins who Bobby encouraged down the path of substance abuse suffered addiction, illness, and death while Bobby has gone on to misrepresent, lie, and cheat his way through life.” …”

 

House GOP holds retreat at a Trump property, a windfall to president’s resort​

Holding the retreat at a Trump property threatens to ignite the same kind of criticism that dogged Trump’s first term: that he has sought to personally profit from his public position.

“… But regardless of how the budget talks go, the biggest immediate beneficiary of the discussion will probably be Trump National Doral Golf Club, which faced steep declines in revenue six years ago. This year marks the first time that House Republicans have spent money directly on a venue owned by the president. The vast majority of the 218-member GOP conference is attending the three-day event, along with a smattering of senior staff members, spouses and children.

Holding the congressional retreat at a Trump property threatens to ignite the same kind of criticism that dogged Trump’s first term: that he has sought to personally profit from his public position in part by maneuvering elected officials, Secret Service agents and others in his orbit to stay at his properties, at times on the taxpayers’ dime. Trump’s critics have long said doing so is a violation of the emoluments clause of the Constitution, which aims to ensure that the public interest overrides personal gain.

… For example, his former D.C. hotel charged the Secret Service 300 percent or more above standard government rates on several occasions, according to an Oversight Committee report released in 2022. The Trump campaign then derided the move as an effort by Democrats to dredge up a long-dead issue for political expediency.

… Critics also grew concerned that foreign interests tried to curry favor with Trump via his hotels. Lobbyists representing the Saudi government reserved an estimated 500 nights’ worth of rooms at a hotel in Washington that Trump owned at the time, shortly after his first inauguration. During that period, the average nightly rate at the hotel was $768. …”

 
nycfan said:

House GOP holds retreat at a Trump property, a windfall to president’s resort​

Holding the retreat at a Trump property threatens to ignite the same kind of criticism that dogged Trump’s first term: that he has sought to personally profit from his public position.

“… But regardless of how the budget talks go, the biggest immediate beneficiary of the discussion will probably be Trump National Doral Golf Club, which faced steep declines in revenue six years ago. This year marks the first time that House Republicans have spent money directly on a venue owned by the president. The vast majority of the 218-member GOP conference is attending the three-day event, along with a smattering of senior staff members, spouses and children.

Holding the congressional retreat at a Trump property threatens to ignite the same kind of criticism that dogged Trump’s first term: that he has sought to personally profit from his public position in part by maneuvering elected officials, Secret Service agents and others in his orbit to stay at his properties, at times on the taxpayers’ dime. Trump’s critics have long said doing so is a violation of the emoluments clause of the Constitution, which aims to ensure that the public interest overrides personal gain.

… For example, his former D.C. hotel charged the Secret Service 300 percent or more above standard government rates on several occasions, according to an Oversight Committee report released in 2022. The Trump campaign then derided the move as an effort by Democrats to dredge up a long-dead issue for political expediency.

… Critics also grew concerned that foreign interests tried to curry favor with Trump via his hotels. Lobbyists representing the Saudi government reserved an estimated 500 nights’ worth of rooms at a hotel in Washington that Trump owned at the time, shortly after his first inauguration. During that period, the average nightly rate at the hotel was $768. …”

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That criticism from 4-8 years ago really accomplished a great deal.
 
superrific said:
This might shock you . . . but the man might not have been living in the US when he met and married her.
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Possibly, but something isn't adding up. If he's a citizen and if they followed the process to get legally married in the US, she shouldn't be deported.
 
ZenMode said:
Possibly, but something isn't adding up. If he's a citizen and if they followed the process to get legally married in the US, she shouldn't be deported.
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Here's an idea. Stop trying to make judgments about peoples' lives from 3 second soundbites of them when they are upset. There is no law requiring you to judge everyone, especially if you have no clue about the actual facts.

Oh, and you're wrong: marriage does not protect against deportation. Supreme Court decided that last year.
 
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