You know that chronic epidemic is not a thing ,don't you? What disease, no matter how poorly defined, do you mean?
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Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)
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dukeman92
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I live in a county whose population is triple because of a major military base. This is Trump country. They love him. It’s truly baffling.
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Want to hear truly infuriating....I give any vet or family members a 25% discount on classes. I work with veteran's organizations closely to help with veteran housing and homelessness. We both grew up in military families and have tremendous respect for military service. Yet, if I express any political opinion AT ALL, the current military members detest me and love Donald Trump.
It's soul crushing sometimes.
HeelYeah2012
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Huh?
Cardiovascular disease, diabetes, cancer, depression. Let’s start with the first two since the causes of the latter two are more unknown and more controversial.
This quote is straight from the CDC website which I will link below: “Chronic diseases such as heart disease, cancer, and diabetes are the leading causes of death and disability in the United States. They are also leading drivers of the nation's $4.5 trillion in annual health care costs.123”
Link: About Chronic Diseases
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Those are chronic diseases ,not epidemics. Epidemic diseases are contagious.
What do you think can be done differently than has been being done for decades? It's not like there hasn't been steady progress in treatment of all three. We've addressed environmental hazards, tobacco use, alcohol use, improper nutrition, better surgical treatments and better medications and have national and international foundations focused on all three. How exactly are crackpots who know next to nothing about any of these going to reinvent the wheel?
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If you don’t speak Pepe internet speak, a “Fren” started as acronym for far right ethnic-nationalist and is used as a sort of coded hand-shake among the far right, especially on Twitter. “Non-Fren” co-evolved to mean whatever outgroup the posting “Fren” hates (often intended by obvious context as a substitute for the preferred slur).
Pepe the frog has been their mascot for a while.
None of which would be relevant except that the tweeter, Elon Musk, is slated to have a highly conflicted quasi-governmental role running a commission to “reform” the federal government and is a close advisor to Trump in forming the new government.
Mulberry Heel
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I still think the two of them are going to have a huge falling-out at some point. Trump already sounds annoyed, and I don't see Dear Leader sharing the spotlight for very long with anybody. If Musk's assault on the federal government doesn't go well and causes a lot of criticism, Trump will dump him, imo.The other side of the story on Musk hanging out all the time…
Trump's first problem: "First Buddy" Elon Musk is annoying everyone
The tech billionaire has reportedly outstayed his welcome.www.motherjones.com
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True but Elon is building/expanding his own base in the meantime.
Mulberry Heel
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Maybe, but I don't see him having nearly Trump's appeal to voters. And if he screws up this government "reform" effort his popularity will quickly plummet.
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Kind of depends on whether he is perceived as screwing it up or it’s spun into a deep state counter-attack that requires him to work from farther outside the government etc.
Mulberry Heel
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If he screws it up even he and the GOP propaganda machine are going to have difficulty in spinning it as anything other than a disaster, imo. I just don't think he has anything like Trump's appeal to the base.
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I think at least some of that is because many military members come from white working-class backgrounds, and that's Trump's base. I know several retired military (one an Iraq War vet) who grew up in my hometown and came from financially modest backgrounds, and they're all huge Trump fans and are convinced that Democrats hate the military and are basically in league with the devil. But even if they hadn't been in the military I think they would still have the same political and cultural views. But yeah, it is distressing to hear such people love them some Trump, especially after all the nasty things he's said about veterans and the military in general, and that he's a draft dodger.
Objectivity is not achieved by someone who is highly partisan even if they are brought in from the outside. That's especially true if they are brought in without being vetted in any way.
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If by "outsider" you mean "persons most likley to personally benefit financially from having control", then yes.
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I'm more talking about objectively looking at processes to see where they can be streamlined, weeding out duplicate or unnecessary positions..... Stuff like that. Nothing that would be R or D. Like "Bar Rescue" on steroids and for the government.
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“… Johnson would put forth what's known as a "concurrent resolution" that would call for both the House and the Senate to adjourn, which the House would then approve. At that point, it would no longer matter if the Senate was unable to muster a majority to go into recess. Trump would simply cite Article 2, Section 3 and direct both chambers to adjourn — perhaps for a very long time.
… Johnson, however, surely doesn't care about such niceties. What matters is simply whether he can get 218 votes to back him up. The only piece of potentially good news in all this is that, thanks to the anarchic House GOP caucus, Johnson has labored mightily to cobble together majorities in the past and often failed.
That task will be as tough as ever given his extremely narrow majority.
But Republicans understand very well that parliamentary maneuvering seldom matters to voters, so on this occasion, the speaker conceivably could keep his coalition together — especially considering the possibility that well-funded primary challengers could be sicced on Republicans who don’t toe the line.
That leaves only the Supreme Court, which clamped down on recess appointments once before. But that ruling came down when Barack Obama was president. The court's far-right supermajority, which has enabled Trump time and again, would likely have little problem finding a facile way to sanction such appointments with a Republican in charge.
It's still possible none of this comes to pass.
The Senate could, for instance, retain a fig-leaf version of its right to vet nominees by simply rubber-stamping Trump's picks, no matter how odious or unqualified. It looks like Thune will be able to spare three votes in the Senate, after all.
But even if a few Republican senators stand up for themselves and resist Trump's recess appointments scheme, no one should assume Mike Johnson would do the same. And if he caves, a cornerstone of our democracy will crumble with him.”
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… Johnson, however, surely doesn't care about such niceties. What matters is simply whether he can get 218 votes to back him up. The only piece of potentially good news in all this is that, thanks to the anarchic House GOP caucus, Johnson has labored mightily to cobble together majorities in the past and often failed.
That task will be as tough as ever given his extremely narrow majority.
But Republicans understand very well that parliamentary maneuvering seldom matters to voters, so on this occasion, the speaker conceivably could keep his coalition together — especially considering the possibility that well-funded primary challengers could be sicced on Republicans who don’t toe the line.
That leaves only the Supreme Court, which clamped down on recess appointments once before. But that ruling came down when Barack Obama was president. The court's far-right supermajority, which has enabled Trump time and again, would likely have little problem finding a facile way to sanction such appointments with a Republican in charge.
It's still possible none of this comes to pass.
The Senate could, for instance, retain a fig-leaf version of its right to vet nominees by simply rubber-stamping Trump's picks, no matter how odious or unqualified. It looks like Thune will be able to spare three votes in the Senate, after all.
But even if a few Republican senators stand up for themselves and resist Trump's recess appointments scheme, no one should assume Mike Johnson would do the same. And if he caves, a cornerstone of our democracy will crumble with him.”
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How Johnson could make Trump's recess appointments a reality
Talk of cutting out Dems — and GOP dissenters — is more than just idle rhetoric.
www.publicnotice.co