Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

[finesse]

I'm more talking about objectively looking at processes to see where they can be streamlined, weeding out duplicate or unnecessary positions..... Stuff like that. Nothing that would be R or D. Like "Bar Rescue" on steroids and for the government.

Which doesn't change a thing.

If nothing else, having two heads in a organization to weed out duplicate and unnecessary positions is ridiculous and a middle finger to the idiots who take their mission seriously. It's like a negative IQ test. If you'll believe that, you'll believe anything.

 

[nycfan]

 

[CFordUNC]

Look! We’re not even two weeks into having Trump 2.0 and we’ve already got the board Pubs agreeing with us about how ridiculously stupid Trump and Tom Cotton’s proposal- boosted by Bernie Sanders- to cap credit card interests at 10%. That’s #bipartisanship baby!

When the far left and the far right agree on anything, it’s probably a bad proposal.

 

[nycfan]

“…
The executive actions and reviews underway include the return of the program informally known as “remain in Mexico,” which requires migrants to stay in Mexico during their immigration proceedings in the US, revising asylum restrictions, revoking protections for migrants covered by Biden’s humanitarian parole programs and undoing ICE’s enforcement priorities, according to two sources briefed on transition policy discussions.

Another executive order that is being considered would make detention mandatory and call for an end to releasing migrants, which often happens across administrations because of limited federal resources. It’s that type of executive order, sources say, that would pave the way for detaining and eventually, deporting people at a large scale.

Trump’s team is also reviewing regional capability for housing migrants – a process likely to lead to consideration of the construction of new detention facilities in larger metropolitan areas, according to two sources. Homeland Security officials have previously identified multiple cities in which to build up detention capability in preparation for border surges.

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But they are also evaluating a potential national emergency declaration to unlock Pentagon resources – which was done during Trump’s first term and faced lawsuits – and tailoring that declaration to pave the way for expanding detention space, according to one of the sources.

The private sector, which the federal government heavily relies on for detention space, is also preparing to add more beds. In a recent eaomrnings call, CoreCivic CEO Damon Hininger noted the increased need for detention capacity. CoreCivic is one of the largest private prison operators in the US. …”

 

[rodoheel]

Take a bunch of people who are currently working and contributing to the economy, and instead lock them up in detention facilities where the government has to pay for their food, clothing, shelter, and people to guard them.

Brilliant! Checkmate libs!

 

[ZenMode]

Which doesn't change a thing.

If nothing else, having two heads in a organization to weed out duplicate and unnecessary positions is ridiculous and a middle finger to the idiots who take their mission seriously. It's like a negative IQ test. If you'll believe that, you'll believe anything.

I'm confused. Is your concern that Musk and Ramaswamy are too politically biased to do their job, are you against looking at the federal government for general efficiency improvements or are you against having two people doing it?

 

[BlooVooDoo]

When does the minefield come into play? You just know it’s being discussed.

 

[finesse]

I'm confused. Is your concern that Musk and Ramaswamy are too politically biased to do their job, are you against looking at the federal government for general efficiency improvements or are you against having two people doing it?

One and three. The lack of vetting of qualifications also greatly concerns me.

 

[ZenMode]

One and three. The lack of vetting of qualifications also greatly concerns me.

Got it.

 

[BlooVooDoo]

Financial needs maybe. I highly doubt Elon could satisfy much else.

Maybe she wants a pony.

 

[rodoheel]

I'm cautiously optimistic about DOGE. Objective assessment and change often has to be spearheaded by an outsider, which Musk and Ramaswamy are.

Sure, if you ignore everything they've said about the endeavor, I could see how one would be optimistic. But anyone who listens to them talk for about ten seconds about it will realize that the likelihood that it will result in an objective and rational look at how the government can do things better is a fool. Their only goal is to hack and burn.

 

[Healing]

So, I see the richest man on the planet, with access to more direct communication to the masses than anyone, is now openly identifying with symbols used by avowed Nazis and holocaust supporters (intentionally did not use “deniers”).

This is the continued language of pre-genocide, pre-mass repression.

Thank you in advance for all the whataboutisms, “yeah but”s, and “he’s just joking” that I won’t see.

 

[HeelYeah2012]

Those are chronic diseases ,not epidemics. Epidemic diseases are contagious.

What do you think can be done differently than has been being done for decades? It's not like there hasn't been steady progress in treatment of all three. We've addressed environmental hazards, tobacco use, alcohol use, improper nutrition, better surgical treatments and better medications and have national and international foundations focused on all three. How exactly are crackpots who know next to nothing about any of these going to reinvent the wheel?

If you think we’ve addressed improper nutrition, we’ll have to agree to disagree. By many measures, America is less healthy now than it’s ever been. Poor diet, poor exercise are the main two culprits.

 

[Healing]

When does the minefield come into play? You just know it’s being discussed.

100%. And while at it, how could “they” stay busy? What if, while in the “holding centers” administered by Geo Group and CoreCivic, they kept their hands busy - maybe with manufacturing rudimentary components of rockets? Oil rigs? Ttump ties?

 

[BlooVooDoo]

If you think we’ve addressed improper nutrition, we’ll have to agree to disagree. By many measures, America is less healthy now than it’s ever been. Poor diet, poor exercise are the main two culprits.

The reality is that things like this are an uphill battle because of corporate lobbyists.

Sugarcoating the Truth: The Role of Lobbying in America’s Obesity Epidemic — Columbia Political Review

In January 2024, Indiana State Representative John Bartlett proposed a bill to ban high-fructose corn syrup from all food and beverage products sold in the state. The bill addresses certain ingredients unique to the American diet understood to be at the root of America’s obesity epidemic. A

www.cpreview.org

Bottom Line: Confectioners lobby up for sugar program showdown

Sugar The National Confectioners Association hired NVG to lobby on changes to sugar policy, one of the food and agriculture issues in the farm bill. The confectioners have pushed to reform the sug…

thehill.com

The Bittersweet Truth: The Sugar Industry’s Manipulation of Nutrition Guidelines - Brown Political Review

For over fifty years, the sugar industry has led a campaign to diminish the negative perception of sugar and manipulate official nutrition guidelines.

brownpoliticalreview.org

The food industry lobby groups behind the new school nutrition standards

No wonder Pop Tarts count as a whole grain.

www.motherjones.com

Cheese carve-out for school meals threatens student health

As USDA attempts to reduce salt in school meals, lobbying from Big Dairy could reverse progress—at the expense of children's health.

www.cspinet.org

 

[sringwal]

If you think we’ve addressed improper nutrition, we’ll have to agree to disagree. By many measures, America is less healthy now than it’s ever been. Poor diet, poor exercise are the main two culprits.

No shit, sherlock.

2012. Piece of advice. Finesse is one of the most intelligent, and oldest, people here. I come from a political household, read the newspaper every morning growing up, and took a class on the 1990 N.C. senate election in fifth grade. And I can say, definitively, that finesse understands politics on a level far beyond my own. Listen to what he is saying because, right now, he is running circles around you and it's awkward to watch.

 

[finesse]

If you think we’ve addressed improper nutrition, we’ll have to agree to disagree. By many measures, America is less healthy now than it’s ever been. Poor diet, poor exercise are the main two culprits.

Name them. I'll bet all of them are about ignoring medical advice. Are you suggesting a nanny state where we force people to eat and exercise "properly" while still supporting people who celebrate the brain deads who reject vaccines.? Are you even aware that theories about proper nutrition are almost as common as versions of the Bible (3000) or Christian denominations (45,000) and about as controversial?

 

[EyeballKid]

If you think we’ve addressed improper nutrition, we’ll have to agree to disagree. By many measures, America is less healthy now than it’s ever been. Poor diet, poor exercise are the main two culprits.

That’s what freedom’s all about. You’re free to eat healthy or not—there are plenty of options, particularly for those with the money to pay for organic foods. And you’re free to exercise as much or as little as you’d like.

If you’re suggesting we need governmental intervention to promote healthy eating options and exercise, or that we need to somehow limit people’s freedom of choice—well, that seems a bit hypocritical coming from someone on the right, doesn’t it?

 

[Healing]

That’s what freedom’s all about. You’re free to eat healthy or not—there are plenty of options, particularly for those with the money to pay for organic foods. And you’re free to exercise as much or as little as you’d like.

If you’re suggesting we need governmental intervention to promote healthy eating options and exercise, or that we need to somehow limit people’s freedom of choice—well, that seems a bit hypocritical coming from someone on the right, doesn’t it?

“Rules for thee” is seemingly undefeated.

 

[ChapelHillSooner]

Take a bunch of people who are currently working and contributing to the economy, and instead lock them up in detention facilities where the government has to pay for their food, clothing, shelter, and people to guard them.

Brilliant! Checkmate libs!

Except those are the people who help us get the food to our tables. When food becomes sparse, the first who will be cut off will be those immigrants.

Could be a humanitarian disaster waiting to happen.