Trump / Musk (other than DOGE) Omnibus Thread

[Zoo_View]

Remember the food pyramid from the ‘60’s, ‘70’s, and ‘80’s?

That was supposedly healthy eating.

Special K cereal and Raisin Bran were supposedly healthy eating.

When I was 13 years-old, I went on one of my big growth spurts…..from about 4’1” to 4’5”…..I was working out 6 days a week, swimming ridiculous yardage, eating like a horse…..and I couldn’t add muscle or size…..I was getting faster because I was swimming better, more technically sound….

My coach and Mom hit on the nutritional goldmine of a HUGE bowl of Total Cereal with 3 bananas in it AND a milkshake with 2 raw eggs, about a half-gallon of Breyer’s Ice Cream, and enough milk to fill a blender. That was breakfast.

Nutrition in the 20th Century was the Dark Ages.

 

[HeelYeah2012]

Well, unless Bernie is just trolling them (and I hope he is), Bernie and Josh Hawley seem to be on the same page with respect to domestic policy.

It cannot be said enough how idiotic a 10% cap on credit card interest rates would be. Credit card interest rates are set by one of the most competitive markets in the world. The interest rates are as high as necessary to cover losses from nonpayment.

10% cap on credit cards is one of the dumbest proposals ever. It’s like the people who think student loans should be interest free. Only way to achieve that is a massive government subsidy or else no one is actually going to lend on those terms.

 

[Ramrouser]

10% cap on credit cards is one of the dumbest proposals ever. It’s like the people who think student loans should be interest free. Only way to achieve that is a massive government subsidy or else no one is actually going to lend on those terms.

Agree. Only people with great credit will be issued cards. This proposal will dramatically reduce the public’s access to credit.

 

[finesse]

Might be true but that’s before my time, so it wasn’t me that was rioting about it. I support anyone who tries to help the chronic disease epidemic in America. It’s one of the most worthy causes government could take, IMO.

You know that chronic epidemic is not a thing ,don't you? What disease, no matter how poorly defined, do you mean?

 

[dukeman92]

What do the vast majority of the military think about Trump? I know some retired military, ex-military, and just a few active duty folks, they all seem to be either pretty apolitical or generally ok with Trump. But I am asking about the top dogs, like what do they think about Trump. During the Bush administration, I knew active duty, lower on the totem pole guys that were evenly split on GWB, but the few higher ups I knew at the time were generally pretty Pro-GWB/Cheney. But I am not as connected as I was then while in college and doing internships with congressional reps. Just didn;t know if you had any insight here? I can't imagine the top brass would be real thrilled with him.

I live in a county whose population is triple because of a major military base. This is Trump country. They love him. It’s truly baffling.

 

[wmheel1287]

I live in a county whose population is triple because of a major military base. This is Trump country. They love him. It’s truly baffling.

Want to hear truly infuriating....I give any vet or family members a 25% discount on classes. I work with veteran's organizations closely to help with veteran housing and homelessness. We both grew up in military families and have tremendous respect for military service. Yet, if I express any political opinion AT ALL, the current military members detest me and love Donald Trump.

It's soul crushing sometimes.

 

[HeelYeah2012]

You know that chronic epidemic is not a thing ,don't you? What disease, no matter how poorly defined, do you mean?

Huh?

Cardiovascular disease, diabetes, cancer, depression. Let’s start with the first two since the causes of the latter two are more unknown and more controversial.

This quote is straight from the CDC website which I will link below: “Chronic diseases such as heart disease, cancer, and diabetes are the leading causes of death and disability in the United States. They are also leading drivers of the nation's $4.5 trillion in annual health care costs.123”

Link: About Chronic Diseases

 

[finesse]

Huh?

Cardiovascular disease, diabetes, cancer. Let’s start with the first two since the causes of cancer are more unknown and more controversial.

Those are chronic diseases ,not epidemics. Epidemic diseases are contagious.

What do you think can be done differently than has been being done for decades? It's not like there hasn't been steady progress in treatment of all three. We've addressed environmental hazards, tobacco use, alcohol use, improper nutrition, better surgical treatments and better medications and have national and international foundations focused on all three. How exactly are crackpots who know next to nothing about any of these going to reinvent the wheel?

 

[nycfan]

If you don’t speak Pepe internet speak, a “Fren” started as acronym for far right ethnic-nationalist and is used as a sort of coded hand-shake among the far right, especially on Twitter. “Non-Fren” co-evolved to mean whatever outgroup the posting “Fren” hates (often intended by obvious context as a substitute for the preferred slur).

Pepe the frog has been their mascot for a while.

None of which would be relevant except that the tweeter, Elon Musk, is slated to have a highly conflicted quasi-governmental role running a commission to “reform” the federal government and is a close advisor to Trump in forming the new government.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

The other side of the story on Musk hanging out all the time…

Trump's first problem: "First Buddy" Elon Musk is annoying everyone

The tech billionaire has reportedly outstayed his welcome.

www.motherjones.com

I still think the two of them are going to have a huge falling-out at some point. Trump already sounds annoyed, and I don't see Dear Leader sharing the spotlight for very long with anybody. If Musk's assault on the federal government doesn't go well and causes a lot of criticism, Trump will dump him, imo.

 

[nycfan]

The responses of Musk’s post provide a pretty good insight into who he was speaking to with this meme.











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[nycfan]

I still think the two of them are going to have a huge falling-out at some point. Trump already sounds annoyed, and I don't see Dear Leader sharing the spotlight for very long with anybody. If Musk's assault on the federal government doesn't go well and causes a lot of criticism, Trump will dump him, imo.

True but Elon is building/expanding his own base in the meantime.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

True but Elon is building/expanding his own base in the meantime.

Maybe, but I don't see him having nearly Trump's appeal to voters. And if he screws up this government "reform" effort his popularity will quickly plummet.

 

[nycfan]

Maybe, but I don't see him having nearly Trump's appeal to voters. And if he screws up this government "reform" effort his popularity will quickly plummet.

Kind of depends on whether he is perceived as screwing it up or it’s spun into a deep state counter-attack that requires him to work from farther outside the government etc.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

Kind of depends on whether he is perceived as screwing it up or it’s spun into a deep state counter-attack that requires him to work from farther outside the government etc.

If he screws it up even he and the GOP propaganda machine are going to have difficulty in spinning it as anything other than a disaster, imo. I just don't think he has anything like Trump's appeal to the base.

 

[ZenMode]

I'm cautiously optimistic about DOGE. Objective assessment and change often has to be spearheaded by an outsider, which Musk and Ramaswamy are.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

Want to hear truly infuriating....I give any vet or family members a 25% discount on classes. I work with veteran's organizations closely to help with veteran housing and homelessness. We both grew up in military families and have tremendous respect for military service. Yet, if I express any political opinion AT ALL, the current military members detest me and love Donald Trump.

It's soul crushing sometimes.

I think at least some of that is because many military members come from white working-class backgrounds, and that's Trump's base. I know several retired military (one an Iraq War vet) who grew up in my hometown and came from financially modest backgrounds, and they're all huge Trump fans and are convinced that Democrats hate the military and are basically in league with the devil. But even if they hadn't been in the military I think they would still have the same political and cultural views. But yeah, it is distressing to hear such people love them some Trump, especially after all the nasty things he's said about veterans and the military in general, and that he's a draft dodger.

 

[nycfan]

 

[nycfan]

 

[finesse]

I'm cautiously optimistic about DOGE. Objective assessment and change often has to be spearheaded by an outsider, which Musk and Ramaswamy are.

Objectivity is not achieved by someone who is highly partisan even if they are brought in from the outside. That's especially true if they are brought in without being vetted in any way.