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nycfan said:
GIFT LINK --> Trump Sees the U.S. as a ‘Disaster.’ The Numbers Tell a Different Story.

Trump Sees the U.S. as a ‘Disaster.’ The Numbers Tell a Different Story.​

President Biden is bequeathing his successor a nation that by many measures is in good shape, even if voters remain unconvinced.

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To hear President-elect Donald J. Trump tell it, he is about to take over a nation ravaged by crisis, a desolate hellscape of crime, chaos and economic hardship. “Our Country is a disaster, a laughing stock all over the World!” he declared on social media last week.

But by many traditional metrics, the America that Mr. Trump will inherit from President Biden when he takes the oath for a second time, two weeks from Monday, is actually in better shape than that bequeathed to any newly elected president since George W. Bush came into office in 2001.

For the first time since that transition 24 years ago, there will be no American troops at war overseas on Inauguration Day. New data reported in the past few days indicate that murders are way down, illegal immigration at the southern border has fallen even below where it was when Mr. Trump left office and roaring stock markets finished their best two years in a quarter-century.

Jobs are up, wages are rising and the economy is growing as fast as it did during Mr. Trump’s presidency. Unemployment is as low as it was just before the Covid-19 pandemic and near its historic best. Domestic energy production is higher than it has ever been.

The manufacturing sector has more jobs than under any president since Mr. Bush. Drug overdose deaths have fallen for the first time in years. Even inflation, the scourge of the Biden presidency, has returned closer to normal, although prices remain higher than they were four years ago.

“President Trump is inheriting an economy that is about as good as it ever gets,” said Mark Zandi, chief economist of Moody’s Analytics. “The U.S. economy is the envy of the rest of the world, as it is the only significant economy that is growing more quickly post-pandemic than prepandemic.”

Those positive trends were not enough to swing a sour electorate behind Vice President Kamala Harris in the November election, reflecting a substantial gap between what statistics say and what ordinary Americans appear to feel about the state of the country. ..."

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He starts his administration with a straight flush, let's say Queen or maybe Jack high. Does he go for a royal flush or toss out the entire hand dealt to him b/c Biden? Or does he stand pat and claim credit for his inherited hand and reap the benefit of people feeling better about the same facts with a different face of current events?
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I don’t think he’ll blow the amazing economy he’s been handed because he’s gambling for something better. I think it’ll happen because neither he nor the people he’s putting in charge have any clue what they’re doing.
 
foreignpolicy.com

The Biggest Foreign-Policy Challenges Facing Trump in 2025

The U.S. president-elect’s second term will begin in a vastly different global landscape than his first.
foreignpolicy.com foreignpolicy.com

The Biggest Foreign-Policy Challenges Facing Trump in 2025​

The U.S. president-elect’s second term will begin in a vastly different global landscape than his first.

"... Among Trump’s first foreign-policy priorities will be addressing Russia’s ongoing war against Ukraine, which will hit its three-year mark just over a month into Trump’s new term. The president-elect has vowed to end the conflict before his inauguration on Jan. 20, 2025. But the introduction of North Korean forces on Russia’s front lines and Ukraine receiving permission from the Biden administration to use Western-supplied long-range missile systems to strike deep inside Russian territory could make that campaign pledge difficult to achieve.

Trump has threatened to increase U.S. military aid to Kyiv or halt such assistance entirely if Putin or Zelensky, respectively, refuse to come to the negotiating table. However, he appears to be placing the onus of peace talks on Europe, not the United States—a marked shift from the outgoing Biden administration’s approach to Russia-Ukraine diplomacy. ..."

Middle East
China
Immigration
Black Swan

"...Analysts use the term “black swan” to describe events that are hard to see coming and have an outsized impact. By definition, they are rare. But with the COVID-19 pandemic, the Taliban’s takeover of Afghanistan, Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the Israel-Hamas war, and the fall of the Assad regime in Syria, historic events have become a seemingly regular occurrence in the last few years.

The sudden rebel offensive that ended five decades of Assad family rule has been described as the Middle East’s 1989 moment. It will set off a chain of events and accelerate shifting power dynamics in the Middle East, the results of which are impossible to predict at this point. Add to the mix a reeling Iran, a defiant Russia, a Europe in chaos, and escalating competition with China, and you have all the ingredients for a rocky road ahead. ..."
 
aGDevil2k said:
He's insane.
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I don't disagree, but he's also the world's wealthiest man and owner of what is still the world's most popular social media site and thus has enormous influence, and with Trump's election he's really feeling his oats. And thanks to Citizens United, he really can just buy members of Congress and nothing can stop him except the voters - the same voters who just handed control of Congress to Musk's party and to his new buddy Trump. Paying millions of dollars to defeat members of Congress he doesn't like is nothing to him, and he'll no doubt do it. He's clearly already cowed many Republicans in Congress, and so now he's going after the Democrats with his megaphone called Twitter and threatening to spend loads of money to beat them in the future if they don't vote his way. In the Gilded Age plutocrats like Rockefeller and Carnegie just bought Senators and whole state legislatures via bribes and other benefits, and it appears that we have perhaps come full circle. Anyone who doesn't find all this deeply disturbing is just whistling past the graveyard at this point, imo.
 
nycfan said:
Lavrov called for “reliable and legally binding agreements that would eliminate the root causes of the conflict and seal a mechanism precluding the possibility of their violation.” ..."
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I agree with Lavrov, but the root cause of the conflict is Putin’s expansionist impulses, and I doubt Lavrov will agree to eliminate Putin.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
I don't disagree, but he's also the world's wealthiest man and owner of what is still the world's most popular social media site and thus has enormous influence, and with Trump's election he's really feeling his oats. And thanks to Citizens United, he really can just buy members of Congress and nothing can stop him except the voters - the same voters who just handed control of Congress to Musk's party and to his new buddy Trump. Paying millions of dollars to defeat members of Congress he doesn't like is nothing to him, and he'll no doubt do it. He's clearly already cowed many Republicans in Congress, and so now he's going after the Democrats with his megaphone called Twitter and threatening to spend loads of money to beat them in the future if they don't vote his way. In the Gilded Age plutocrats like Rockefeller and Carnegie just bought Senators and whole state legislatures via bribes and other benefits, and it appears that we have perhaps come full circle. Anyone who doesn't find all this deeply disturbing is just whistling past the graveyard at this point, imo.
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Yet another evil brought to you by our Supreme(ly Corrupt) Court. When a country has its two worst presidents (W. & Trump) and its worst Supreme Court (Roberts/Thomas/Alito) at the same time, it's no wonder we're in such deep shit. It'll take decades to dig out.
 
nycfan said:
GIFT LINK --> Trump Sees the U.S. as a ‘Disaster.’ The Numbers Tell a Different Story.

Trump Sees the U.S. as a ‘Disaster.’ The Numbers Tell a Different Story.​

President Biden is bequeathing his successor a nation that by many measures is in good shape, even if voters remain unconvinced.

"
To hear President-elect Donald J. Trump tell it, he is about to take over a nation ravaged by crisis, a desolate hellscape of crime, chaos and economic hardship. “Our Country is a disaster, a laughing stock all over the World!” he declared on social media last week.

But by many traditional metrics, the America that Mr. Trump will inherit from President Biden when he takes the oath for a second time, two weeks from Monday, is actually in better shape than that bequeathed to any newly elected president since George W. Bush came into office in 2001.

For the first time since that transition 24 years ago, there will be no American troops at war overseas on Inauguration Day. New data reported in the past few days indicate that murders are way down, illegal immigration at the southern border has fallen even below where it was when Mr. Trump left office and roaring stock markets finished their best two years in a quarter-century.

Jobs are up, wages are rising and the economy is growing as fast as it did during Mr. Trump’s presidency. Unemployment is as low as it was just before the Covid-19 pandemic and near its historic best. Domestic energy production is higher than it has ever been.

The manufacturing sector has more jobs than under any president since Mr. Bush. Drug overdose deaths have fallen for the first time in years. Even inflation, the scourge of the Biden presidency, has returned closer to normal, although prices remain higher than they were four years ago.

“President Trump is inheriting an economy that is about as good as it ever gets,” said Mark Zandi, chief economist of Moody’s Analytics. “The U.S. economy is the envy of the rest of the world, as it is the only significant economy that is growing more quickly post-pandemic than prepandemic.”

Those positive trends were not enough to swing a sour electorate behind Vice President Kamala Harris in the November election, reflecting a substantial gap between what statistics say and what ordinary Americans appear to feel about the state of the country. ..."

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He starts his administration with a straight flush, let's say Queen or maybe Jack high. Does he go for a royal flush or toss out the entire hand dealt to him b/c Biden? Or does he stand pat and claim credit for his inherited hand and reap the benefit of people feeling better about the same facts with a different face of current events?
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His people want to wreck shit. I suspect they’re going to give it a strong go.
 
nycfan said:








These posts alternate with posts claiming the UK government is covering up Pakistani rape gangs, that Grok is the future of AI, please be more positive on Xitter and we’re going to Mars, baby! (The last one I suspect may be at the core of his attempt to seize control of the U.S. government - to get funding for his dream of going to Mars at the expense of pretty much everything else).
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Maybe we can all just circumvent the process by pitching in enough to send him to Mars, under the caveat that it be a one-way trip?
 
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