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Premier Doug Ford has ordered the LCBO to strip its shelves of American products in response to the U.S. imposing 25 per cent tariffs on most Canadian imports starting Tuesday.

"Every year, LCBO sells nearly $1 billion worth of American wine, beer, spirits and seltzers. Not anymore," said Ford in a statement Sunday morning.

Ford says American liquor will be removed from LCBO shelves "starting Tuesday."
 
nycfan said:
“WILL THERE BE PAIN? YES, MAYBE (AND MAYBE NOT!). … IT WILL ALL BE WORTH THE PRICE THAT MUST BE PAID.”

DJT 2/2/25

A bit different from his campaign rhetoric.
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For the MAGAs in the back…

The business genius just said he has no idea what the cost will be, but it will be worth it.

Imagine pitching an idea to your boss and saying that.
 
If Lutheran Social Services operates senior care facilities across the upper Midwest they are bound to receive a shitload of payments from Medicare and Medicaid. Nothing wrong with that. So DOGE/MAGA wants to shut this down which will kill people. This was always the danger of allowing Musk to access this data so he could breach security and weaponize innocent payments. And MAGA is generally so stupid they will believe this is corrupt and illegal payments since fElon said so.

Our board Trump voters will be on here defending this as soon as they get their talking points from their media bubble. Just watch.
 
nycfan said:
FLASHBACK:



“… “We have to reduce spending to live within our means. And that necessarily involves some temporary hardship, but it will ensure long-term prosperity,” Musk stated in the call, fully endorsing the strain Trump’s policies would place on Americans.

Musk’s words make it clear that the disruption is not an unintended side effect but an accepted—if not desired—outcome.

The billionaire went further by responding to an X (formerly Twitter) user who anticipated a market downturn if Trump’s aggressive policies, including mass deportations and extreme deficit cuts, were enacted. The user predicted that with Trump and Musk in charge, the U.S. economy—dependent on debt and vulnerable to asset bubbles—would face a severe reaction before stabilizing under the intended austerity. Musk’s response was a simple acknowledgment: “Sounds about right.” …”

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We will see if Americans are willing to suffer (for how long? a few years(?)) and embrace austerity to live within the country’s means in an age of extraordinary wealth disparity that means most Americans will experience billionaire deployed austerity quite differently from the billionaires themselves.
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It must be so easy to "live within your means" when you are the richest man in the world.
 
farce© said:
If Lutheran Social Services operates senior care facilities across the upper Midwest they are bound to receive a shitload of payments from Medicare and Medicaid. Nothing wrong with that. So DOGE/MAGA wants to shut this down which will kill people. This was always the danger of allowing Musk to access this data so he could breach security and weaponize innocent payments. And MAGA is generally so stupid they will believe this is corrupt and illegal payments since fElon said so.

Our board Trump voters will be on here defending this as soon as they get their talking points from their media bubble. Just watch.
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I said since the election, thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands, of Americans will needlessly die due to ttump, just like the first time around. Within the first few days, I'm thinking I was sanguine. The removal of USAID is another story, but will almost certainly result in hundreds of thousands (probably millions) of unnecessary international deaths. See funding of health clinics, HIV drugs, malaria, mpox, etc.

As a direct result of Musk's meddling and the malignant malice of ttump, miller, vought, et al. nursing homes and hospitals will shut down; ttump et al. are hiding information regarding communicable diseases and public health risks (i.e. they'll let corporations dump metaphorical cancer into rivers x, y, z); ttump et al. are creating barriers to care for people on Medicare and Medicaid; they're hamstringing research into cancer, genetic disorders, etc..

My healthcare system is scrambling just to fill vacant clinical roles, while also loosely communicating an ominous future, i.e. uncertain reliability of medicare and medicaid payments, planning for significant budget cuts, pairing back specialty care, etc. Mind you, this is a teaching and research institution that right now is so overloaded and understaffed that cancer patients are boarded in hallway nooks; the emergency department literally has patients lining the hallways, for 50 yards, outside the department (not to mention the waiting room chaos). An element of this is certainly the dearth of qualified clinicians vs demand; however, the money is there to fund all of the necessary care and research, but the techbroligarchs and fascists are actively consolidating power and resources for themselves and their cronies, at the expense of 99.8% of everyone else.
 
farce© said:
If Lutheran Social Services operates senior care facilities across the upper Midwest they are bound to receive a shitload of payments from Medicare and Medicaid. Nothing wrong with that. So DOGE/MAGA wants to shut this down which will kill people. This was always the danger of allowing Musk to access this data so he could breach security and weaponize innocent payments. And MAGA is generally so stupid they will believe this is corrupt and illegal payments since fElon said so.

Our board Trump voters will be on here defending this as soon as they get their talking points from their media bubble. Just watch.
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I’m not sure. Maybe Ramrouser will. The other Pubs seem to be getting a sense of how bad this is. HeelYeah will only engage on transphobic discussions, so I’m not sure what he thinks about the broader authoritarian takeover, but I’m pretty sure people like Callatoroy are rapidly figuring out that their predictions of a benign, mostly constructive Trump 2.0 were wildly naive.
 
uncmba said:
We could make everything we use in America. It would cost twice as much. But we could do it.
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We could certainly make everything we buy at WalMart or Target
Now the jobs to make those things would be Minimum wage-which realistically is like 12-13 $ an hour if you want to actually hire folks
 


“… Three of the sources said the DOGE personnel wanted to gain access to security systems and personnel files. Two of those sources said also they wanted access to classified information.

USAID Director of Security John Voorhees and his deputy are the latest officials who have been put on leave amid fears that the agency is being intentionally dismantled by the Trump administration. Rumors are swirling that President Donald Trump intends to sign an executive order to fold USAID into the US State Department – a move that Democratic lawmakers say is illegal.

… Around 60 senior USAID staff were put on leave last week on accusations of attempting to circumvent the executive order on foreign aid. Another senior official was put on leave for trying to reverse that move after finding no evidence of wrongdoing.

One source said the entire USAID public affairs office was put on leave and locked out of their systems.“

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Gee - I wonder why Trump Tariffs on Chyna are only 10% vs. 25% to Mexico and Canada.

Rightly, Canada and Mexico are hitting the US with counter tariffs which will cost Americans jobs in addition of the Trumpflation of the tariffs themselves.
 
nycfan said:
FLASHBACK:



“… “We have to reduce spending to live within our means. And that necessarily involves some temporary hardship, but it will ensure long-term prosperity,” Musk stated in the call, fully endorsing the strain Trump’s policies would place on Americans.

Musk’s words make it clear that the disruption is not an unintended side effect but an accepted—if not desired—outcome.

The billionaire went further by responding to an X (formerly Twitter) user who anticipated a market downturn if Trump’s aggressive policies, including mass deportations and extreme deficit cuts, were enacted. The user predicted that with Trump and Musk in charge, the U.S. economy—dependent on debt and vulnerable to asset bubbles—would face a severe reaction before stabilizing under the intended austerity. Musk’s response was a simple acknowledgment: “Sounds about right.” …”

——

We will see if Americans are willing to suffer (for how long? a few years(?)) and embrace austerity to live within the country’s means in an age of extraordinary wealth disparity that means most Americans will experience billionaire deployed austerity quite differently from the billionaires themselves.
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We must SUFFER MORE for our Billionaire Overlords. For they are mighty and just!
 
lawtig02 said:
The traditional media has basically collapsed now. They have no idea what to do with this new world. Dems will have to find a messaging strategy that does not include them.
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To be fair, the people that need to hear what the traditional media have to say are too busy listening to Joe Rogan interview a guy who does nothing but eat raw meat and hit on HS girls because they haven’t yet developed a sense of “being able to do better.”
 
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