Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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Callatoroy said:
You are the very definition of woke. You are also the definition of people who were repudiated in the election. So hate away. You are now an afterthought and hopefully will be further neutered over the next 4 years. If I had just been relegated to the trash heap and deemed useless by a majority of voters I'd be angry too. You would be lucky not to shit your pants while holding a gun barney
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So, are you against individual liberties? People being free to be who they are? (I'm not talking about pedophiles here)

How are we really a free country, if the liberties we have change based on the party that's in power? We are not truly free if we are making laws and policies that specifically limit medical freedom, freedom to love who one wants, freedom to be who we are and live our best lives.

Call me woke, I don't care. I am for individual freedoms. I'm for a real free country, where everything from the marriage pulpit to the bedroom are regulated.
 
UNCatTech said:
So, are you against individual liberties? People being free to be who they are? (I'm not talking about pedophiles here)

How are we really a free country, if the liberties we have change based on the party that's in power? We are not truly free if we are making laws and policies that specifically limit medical freedom, freedom to love who one wants, freedom to be who we are and live our best lives.

Call me woke, I don't care. I am for individual freedoms. I'm for a real free country, where everything from the marriage pulpit to the bedroom are regulated.
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And that’s the difference between people like you, me, Lawtig, Chile, and several other folks in this community, and the poster to whom you are responding. We actually believe in and abide by our bedrock small government conservative principles of protection of individual liberty and personal freedom. We also believe that the executive is not a monarch, that the constitution is not situationally convenient, and that the judicial branch’s rulings are not to be followed or not followed based on our personal beliefs.
 
Callatoroy said:
"As someone that appears to understand the need for checks and balances, and accountability, you cant really be ok with him completely ignoring the guard rails in place to keep the US from becoming a dictatorship, correct?"

Correct that I'm not in favor of a dictator regardless on any party affiliation (fully support 2 term limit for potus) and believe very strongly in checks and balances including not eliminating the filibuster.
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In your mind, how does the filibuster embody checks and balances.
 
UNCatTech said:
So, are you against individual liberties? People being free to be who they are? (I'm not talking about pedophiles here)

How are we really a free country, if the liberties we have change based on the party that's in power? We are not truly free if we are making laws and policies that specifically limit medical freedom, freedom to love who one wants, freedom to be who we are and live our best lives.

Call me woke, I don't care. I am for individual freedoms. I'm for a real free country, where everything from the marriage pulpit to the bedroom are regulated.
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Folks, can we move these debates to another thread and leave this one to its originally intended topic?

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Callatoroy said:
Speaking of cutting waste, trump just signed an order withdrawing from WHO.
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Terrible decision made because Trump has to blame someone for his previous failures
There are those who work to fix the problem and then there are those who just want to affix the blame

And oh yeah

The World Health Organization (WHO) is guided by values that include integrity, professionalism, and respect for diversity.

These values are based on the principles of human rights, equity, and universality
 
ZenMode said:
I don't know.....the border towns, that are actually flooded by migrants and have been for decades, figure it out and I suspect they aren't using a lot hotels because the towns often aren't the type that would have lots of hotels in the first place.
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Hmm. Can you think of a difference between rural Texas and New York City? Anything that might make it harder for one of them to find space than the other?
 
Callatoroy said:
That's not what he said. Context matters. He said "legitimate power"
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Does he have any kind of power other than legitimate power?

Not exactly redundant but with my background it reminds me of 3 equations and 2 unknowns - over determined
 
ZenMode said:
The decision to put them up in expensive hotels in NYC isn't the fault of Desantis or Abbott. I support the decision to bus them because it brought the issue to the forefront.

Plus, Kathy Hochul loves immigrants. Abbott and Desantis were just making her wishes come true.
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Of course you support the decision. At least you’ve dropped the bosider bullshit and come out of the closet as full blown MAGA.

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farce© said:
Of course you support the decision. At least you’ve dropped the bosider bullshit and come out of the closet as full blown MAGA.

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Being able to see both sides on many topics doesn't mean I don't sometimes take a side on specific topics.

For example, I can recognize the need for some number of Mexican immigrants to do to specific jobs, while still recognizing the stupidity of having a largely open border that has allowed millions upon millions of illegals into the country.

Northern Democrats, sitting in their ivory towers, sipping their Malbec and saying how much they loooooove migrants, while conservative southern states bear the brunt of migration, is why I support bussing migrants to NYC and other liberal cities/locations.
 
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