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gtyellowjacket said:
Tesla still has the best self-driving technology out there
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My understanding is that that isn't even close to being true. Even their assisted driving tech has had major failures and is nowhere near what is advertised.

Not even self driving but for a comparison...


And for self driving itself.

www.businessinsider.com

Tesla's not even in the top 10 of self-driving firms, according to experts who ranked all of the leading companies working on automation

Tesla was nowhere to be found in this year's list of the top 10 of leading automated driving firms ranked by research firm Guidehouse Insights.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
 
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ChapelHillSooner said:
My understanding is that that isn't even close to being true. Even their assisted driving tech has had major failures and is nowhere near what is advertised.

Not even self driving but for a comparison...


And for self driving itself.

www.businessinsider.com

Tesla's not even in the top 10 of self-driving firms, according to experts who ranked all of the leading companies working on automation

Tesla was nowhere to be found in this year's list of the top 10 of leading automated driving firms ranked by research firm Guidehouse Insights.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
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Cool article and like every old dad, I love and trust consumer reports but this struck me as weird:

"Tesla’s “Full Self Driving” optional feature, which promises to one day provide assistance in a broad range of situations including urban driving, was not evaluated in these tests."

I'm not a car guy but it seems like full self-driving should have been included in those tests if they are going to evaluate how well Tesla performs compared to other car makers.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Cool article and like every old dad, I love and trust consumer reports but this struck me as weird:

"Tesla’s “Full Self Driving” optional feature, which promises to one day provide assistance in a broad range of situations including urban driving, was not evaluated in these tests."

I'm not a car guy but it seems like full self-driving should have been included in those tests if they are going to evaluate how well Tesla performs compared to other car makers.
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Waymo has been offering commercial driverless taxis service for two years. It uses lidar, radar and cameras.

Tesla just uses camera and is nowhere close to real-world self-driving.

How could you claim that Tesla has the best self-driving technology? Tesla is way behind the market.
 
Calheel said:
Waymo has been offering commercial driverless taxis service for two years. It uses lidar, radar and cameras.

Tesla just uses camera and is nowhere close to real-world self-driving.

How could you claim that Tesla has the best self-driving technology? Tesla is way behind the market.
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I made the claim out of ignorance. I really did think Tesla was ahead but nice to know the others are catching up or exceeding.

Yeah, Tesla made a technical decision to only use video instead of also relying on things like lidar, sonar or radar to keep cost low and with all the cars they have on the road right now, it's looking like a bad choice. Hard to retrofit, and video just doesn't seem like enough in edge cases. Maybe they'll get it figured out.

I did try Ford's self driving offering when we were test driving for our last car and I got turned off by the way they priced it. It was something like 50 bucks a month for as long as you own the car which is probably a relatively small fraction of what it would cost to operate a car on a monthly basis but just seemed like a lot. And I just looked up Tesla's version and it's double that so I'm probably just going to have to get used to it.
 
altmin said:
When people talk about "defund the police" this is the crap they talk about. Spending over $150K on a cybertruck to try to get kids to not do drugs.


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That's just standard DARE schtick. Police have been rolling out "cool" DARE vehicles for 40 years. Nothing particularly new or unusual about this. And I seriously doubt this is what motivates defund the police movements. The fact that the Irvine cops are the biggest assholes in the Southern California region would be a far bigger reason to defund the police.
 
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