Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)
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I'm keeping an open mind on the God one but yeah.
Then would you consider it an assassination attempt when the gunman actually shot into the Obama White House even though, unknown to the gunman, they weren't home? I don't consider either of them to be since there was never a time when they were in danger.
gtyellowjacket
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Certainly. He attempted to assassinate Obama.
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Rockin' and a-rollin', splishin' and a-splashin',
Over the horizon, what can it be?
The pilgrims sailed the sea
To find a place to call their own.
In their ship Mayflower,
They hoped to find a better home.
They finally knocked
On Plymouth Rock
And someone said, "We're there."
It may not look like home
But at this point I don't care.
Oh, they were missing Mother England,
They swore their loyalty until the very end.
Anything you say, King,
It's OK, King,
You know it's kinda scary on your own.
Gonna build a new land
The way we planned.
Could you help us run it till it's grown?
They planted corn, you know
They built their houses one by one,
And bit by bit they worked
Until the colonies were done.
They looked around,
Yeah, up and down,
And someone said, "Hurray!"
If the king could only see us now
He would be proud of us today.
They knew that now they'd run their own land,
But George the Third still vowed
He'd rule them till the end.
Anything I say, do it my way now.
Anything I say, do it my way.
Don't you get to feeling independent
'Cause I'm gonna force you to obey.
He taxed their property,
He didn't give them any choice,
And back in England,
He didn't give them any voice.
(That's called taxation without representation,
And it's not fair!)
But when the Colonies complained
The king said: "I don't care!"
He even has the nerve
To tax our cup of tea.
To put it kindly, King,
We really don't agree.
Gonna show you how we feel.
We're gonna dump this tea
And turn this harbor into
The biggest cup of tea in history!
They wanted no more Mother England.
They knew the time had come
For them to take command.
It's very clear you're being unfair, King,
No matter what you say, we won't obey.
Gonna hold a revolution now, King,
And we're gonna run it all our way
With no more kings...
We're gonna elect a president! (No more kings)
He's gonna do what the people want! (No more kings)
We're gonna run things our way! (No more kings)
Nobody's gonna tell us what to do!
Rockin' and a-rollin', splishin' and a-splashin',
Over the horizon, what can it be?
Looks like it's going to be a free country.
Over the horizon, what can it be?
The pilgrims sailed the sea
To find a place to call their own.
In their ship Mayflower,
They hoped to find a better home.
They finally knocked
On Plymouth Rock
And someone said, "We're there."
It may not look like home
But at this point I don't care.
Oh, they were missing Mother England,
They swore their loyalty until the very end.
Anything you say, King,
It's OK, King,
You know it's kinda scary on your own.
Gonna build a new land
The way we planned.
Could you help us run it till it's grown?
They planted corn, you know
They built their houses one by one,
And bit by bit they worked
Until the colonies were done.
They looked around,
Yeah, up and down,
And someone said, "Hurray!"
If the king could only see us now
He would be proud of us today.
They knew that now they'd run their own land,
But George the Third still vowed
He'd rule them till the end.
Anything I say, do it my way now.
Anything I say, do it my way.
Don't you get to feeling independent
'Cause I'm gonna force you to obey.
He taxed their property,
He didn't give them any choice,
And back in England,
He didn't give them any voice.
(That's called taxation without representation,
And it's not fair!)
But when the Colonies complained
The king said: "I don't care!"
He even has the nerve
To tax our cup of tea.
To put it kindly, King,
We really don't agree.
Gonna show you how we feel.
We're gonna dump this tea
And turn this harbor into
The biggest cup of tea in history!
They wanted no more Mother England.
They knew the time had come
For them to take command.
It's very clear you're being unfair, King,
No matter what you say, we won't obey.
Gonna hold a revolution now, King,
And we're gonna run it all our way
With no more kings...
We're gonna elect a president! (No more kings)
He's gonna do what the people want! (No more kings)
We're gonna run things our way! (No more kings)
Nobody's gonna tell us what to do!
Rockin' and a-rollin', splishin' and a-splashin',
Over the horizon, what can it be?
Looks like it's going to be a free country.
AlbionAmerican
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Legalizing hard drugs is up there with abolishing the police as far as stupid ideas the far left comes up with. Get real, people who advocate this have no idea how unserious of a proposal this is, its so unrealistic and will be far more harmful than you realize. You know nothing about human psychology or why people do drugs in the first place if this is your idea of a solution.
It actually sickens me that people think its okay for the government to offer people ways to destroy their own lives (and anyone who loves them).
You might want to see what the Cato Institute has to say about that. They are definitely not far left. What you are discussing , I guess is to continue a policy of prohibition that hasn't worked anywhere at any time for any substance ever while enriching the illegal suppliers. The Mafia and such gangs got rich off of Prohibition. The cartels got rich off prohibition. Add to it, the tainted supply and uncertain dosages greatly increase the dangers of the drugs. You don't have a leg to stand on.
AlbionAmerican
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Usha literally was an employee of the Chinese Communist Party for a period of time her in life, but pointing this out is me hating brown people? You are the idiot here, for the record I aint MAGA d!ckhead, but I call things as they are. You are a fool who doesn't understand how spy games or global power works. Usha and her family obviously have ties to very right wing elements in India, but criticizing this in your view is "racist".
superrific
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You do understand spy games, Mr. Netflix?
Usha Vance spent one year in China teaching English -- like hundreds of thousands of other people. An ex-gf of mine did the same in Vietnam; didn't make her a communist.
Even by your exceedingly low standards, this is pathetic and disgusting. First, there's nothing at all suspicious about a "foreign born immigrant" (as if there are other types) working for an aerospace company; there are thousands of them who work for Collins. Second, choose your theory: is she a right-wing Hindu nationalist or a Chinese communist? Those two groups are not friends. Third, and most importantly, she's the fucking Second Lady. She's about as far removed from the decision making as possible. But she is the only brown person you can see, so of course you target her.
P.S. the Indian version of the proud boys is called the BJP and they currently hold power. Literally 500 million people are affiliated with it.
AlbionAmerican
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No, you are wrong, 500m people are not part of RSS. Read below.
Hypothetically, if a VP's spouse's family were Jewish, but not the nice American kind, but the kind who had family who were in Israel and were all hardline Kahanists, don't you think that might be concerning? You're probably the type who'd fall into the Netanyahu/ADL/Likud psyop where criticizing racist scumbags like them = me committing an anti-Semitism!
Pointing this out isn't me being "racist", its you being obviously naive, and honestly its a big reason we're in the mess we're in today. People need to criticize things that are concerning, not fall prey to these games where you're called a racist for obvious conflicts of interest (which is a tactic the CCP, Israelis, Russians, etc. all do as a way to weaken an American response to their ops).
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superrific
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So your allegation is based on the political leanings of Usha's great uncle? I don't think you want to go down that road. I'll bet a fair number of people on this board had great uncles who belonged to the KKK. That doesn't mean shit.
In general, I don't hold the activities of a person's great uncle against them. It is indicative of nothing.
EyeballKid
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You should really read up on things before you make an ass of yourself.
Legalization + funding for social supports = fewer overdose deaths, fewer ER visits, fewer police arrests/decreased jail populations, decreased violence, etc.
Americans get hung up on the “funding for social supports” part of the equation, because the righties have turned it into a morality issue, claiming that it’d be tantamount to using tax dollars to promote drug use.
AlbionAmerican
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It's indicative that we don't know anything about these people.
These tech bros who are taking over the government, especially all the ones calling for Cold War 2.0, well isn't it interesting how so many of them also have defense startups / companies and want to get ahold of more defense contracts, such as Joe Lonsdale, Palmer Luckey, Elon himself, among many others? Maybe you've never researched just who financially backed SpaceX, but a lot of equity funding (especially funding that has kept Elon liquid at times when he was clearing being squeezed by the Feds) comes from Saudi Arabia and the UAE. There's also never been a shortage of Russian mob money that's surrounded Elon World.
I am personally very concerned about how much power these tech bros are having over our future, however, I'm more worried about how these tech bros are also subject to the interests of foreign influence within their own companies, who are receiving OUR defense contracts. Elon is clearing out the government obviously for his own interests at the end of the day. Now, is it really that hard for you to imagine that it might be in the interest of let's say India, who may or may not have financial interests (through people whom they control) in defense startups in Silicon Valley (I honestly haven't done the research but I'm sure it exists). Furthermore, is it also so crazy to be concerned that these defense startups who have foreign investment then also have connections to JD Vance, by way of Usha? This is all happening out in the open right now via Elon, so its not such a fantastical premise. Why all the sudden are there so many Indians tied into the GOP? It's worth exploring, and its not racist to do so. Frankly I'd like to know more about Kash Patel and Vivek Ramaswamy's family too because Vivek literally ran a pharma scam to make his money, that doesn't just happen accidentally. The family is going to be involved in raising someone who thinks dishonestly about the world, that the ends justify the means. So no, I don't trust Usha just because she is brown, I have questions.
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Oh yeah this no doubt the most mobbed up administration since the 1960's. They're just so bad at it I can only hope their incompetence shines through for this administration.
I’m confused.
She’s a former Chinese Communist Party employee AND she and her family have ties to right-wingers in India.
Is she a communist or a fascist?
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Trump Plans to Use Military Sites Across the Country to Detain Undocumented Immigrants
The move would be a drastic escalation by the White House to militarize immigration enforcement.
Trump Plans to Use Military Sites Across the Country to Detain Undocumented Immigrants
The move would be a drastic escalation by the White House to militarize immigration enforcement.
“… President Trump’s team is developing a deportation hub at Fort Bliss, near El Paso, Texas, that could eventually hold up to 10,000 undocumented immigrants as they go through the process of being deported, according to three officials familiar with the plan.
Fort Bliss would serve as a model as the administration aims to develop more detention facilities on military sites across the country — from Utah to the area near Niagara Falls — to hold potentially thousands more people and make up for a shortfall of space at Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities, the officials said. They spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss details of a plan that is still in its early stages and has not yet been finalized.
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The proposal would mark a major escalation in the militarization of immigration enforcement after Mr. Trump made clear when he came into office that he wanted to rely even more on the Pentagon to curtail immigration.
For Trump officials, the plan helps address a shortage of space for holding the vast number of people they hope to arrest and deport. But it also raises serious questions about the possibility of redirecting military resources and training schedules. Military officials say the impact would depend on the scale of arrests and how long detainees remained in custody. And advocates for immigrants point to a history of poor conditions for immigrants held in military facilities. …”
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“U.S. President Donald Trump deported 37,660 people during his first month in office, previously unpublished U.S. Department of Homeland Security data show, far less than the monthly average of 57,000 removals and returns in the last full year of Joe Biden's administration.”
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Trump said they intend deport 20 million illegal immigrants. At their current pace that will take 44 years.
Trump deporting people at a slower rate than Biden's last year in office
U.S. President Donald Trump deported 37,660 people during his first month in office, previously unpublished U.S. Department of Homeland Security data show, far less than the monthly average of 57,000 removals and returns in the last full year of Joe Biden's administration.
Trump said they intend deport 20 million illegal immigrants. At their current pace that will take 44 years.
AlbionAmerican
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I wouldn't get too hung up on these labels when it comes to China, they dont practice Communism there, its more like a lifestyle brand to neuter the class discussions entirely in China as nothing in modern China is remotely communist. Arguably China is perhaps the most fascist country in the world today given the whole ethnic Han supremacist worldview going on, not to mention the obsession with genetics and CRISPR technology, etc. It's very complicated to understand internal power dynamics of China as an outsider, and who maps to whom, but there are generally 3 main power factions: the Princeling faction (Xi Jinping), the Shanghai Clique (formerly Deng Xiaoping's faction), and the Communist Youth League faction (Hu Jintao and Li Keqiang's faction). A way to understand it is Xi Jinping is more like the MAGA/Trump faction of America, Shanghai Clique was more akin to Bush-Era Republicans, and the Communist Youth League were more like the Clinton/Obama technocratic centrists.
You could imagine a situation where Usha's involvement in China isn't about her being communist, but more linking with Xi Jinping's power network, which at the time she was there would have been the weakest of the three factions. I don't think it's an accident all these nationalists emerged when they did across multiple countries, there is clearly a global cooperative network going on here, especially when you consider that Shinzo Abe and Xi Jinping both took charge about 4 weeks apart, in the same year (2012) which Putin took charge in Russia. Modi then took charge about 18 months later. Just saying, its not an accident all these things happened when they happened, there was obviously a very coordinated, rather shadowy effort to bring these four populist nationalists to power within a 2 year window, which clearly had the ripple effect on accelerating Trump's rise soon after.
You mentioned the labels.
It’s obvious you adhere to lots of conspiracy theories.