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I don't have to feel anything about it because it won't ever happen. You are hung up on the premise that fair matters. Fuck fair. We have begged and pleaded for mexico to stop the fentanyl but they either can't or won't. In either case the result is the same. So if they can't or won't then we can either accept 70,000 deaths a year, which could be someone in your family, or we can do something about it. After 4 years of jill doing nothing but giving lip service trump campaigned on doing something and he is going to do something. You can sit on your false moral high ground and publicly trash him for not following "normal" protocol while secretly thanking him after the flow gets cut and cartels are cripled by dead cartel heads. And we aren't attacking an ally. We are attacking a terrorist organization that is killing Americans. You don't have a problem with dropping a drone strike on an isis leader or hamas leader. No difference. Protecting Americans from fentanyl is no different than protecting Americans from suicide bombers in a mall.
Why are you blaming Mexico for American failures? It's always the same for you guys. The reason that we think you're racists is that, whenever you get angry at something, you lash out at brown people and blame them for the problems.

Here's the reality:

1. The **primary** responsibility for curtailing heroin use in the US belongs to the US. Mexico's government doesn't actually have any responsibility to help us at all.

2. For 50 years, America has completely failed. We have tried military solutions before. We fucking bombed and sprayed herbicide all over South America. It did not stop the drugs. We have tried law enforcement solutions. They have also been ineffective.

3. Mexico is and long has been working with the US on the problem. But it is manifestly NOT their fault that so many Americans turn to opiate addiction. America and Americans did that. How about you focus your accountability on the people WITHIN THIS COUNTRY who are responsible. That means identifying failed policies and changing them, and replacing the leadership. But you guys don't want to do that, because the best ways to treat addiction involve scientific medicine.

4. At a minimum, the US needs to be imprisoning our own homegrown drug dealers before bombing other countries. And Trump surely will -- wait, what's that? He pardoned one of the most prolific drug traffickers in history, who also tried to have five people murdered? Ross Ulbricht? That guy was pardoned?

Oh.

5. "Protecting Americans from fentanyl is no different than protecting Americans from suicide bombers in a mall" might be the stupidest of all the incredibly stupid things posted on this board. What went through your mind as you typed that? Were you just blinded by rage?
 
It just shows how bad and WASTEFUL the legislation was in the first place - which we said at the time it was passed. I understand what you're saying about appropriated funds but this "stuff" is real hard to defend.

The President, as chief executive, has some discretion in the way these appropriated funds are distributed.
1. "in the way" is not the same as "whether."
2. The President did exercise that discretion. Joe Biden was president at the time. It doesn't matter if you disagree with him. His actions were lawful. They cannot be undone because Trump just wants to. Imagine how things would go if one administration just gets to undo everything the previous one does because of simple disagreement?
3. None of it is hard to defend. What's hard to defend is your refusal to acknowledge the problem of climate change, which is why you just ignore it and lash out at women.
 
Yeah, I realized later that I lost a factor of 1000 in there but it didn't seem worth rushing to my computer to correct it.
Still, 20 ponds of fentanyl is equivalent of up to a ton of heroin and there's a new class of drugs 20 times stronger. As you and others have said, you're not stopping the drugs in Mexico and you're not stopping them at the borders. The amounts needed are too small to be easy to discover and less than one per cent comes in with illegals. Most, about 85%, comes in with American citizens.
 
the good ole war against drugs lmao cant believe anyone still argues about it. been spendings billions a year on it for decades and we have more drugs hhere than ever before

same goes for illegals

we have a great demand for drugs here and it help fund our self sustaining joke of a legal system

we have a great demand for cheap illegal labor its not going anywhere either

same ole tired bipartisan bickering over a nothing burger thats not going to change one bit
 
What the actual fuck. This coming from a sitting American president. At least during his first term there were adults in the room. This dementia patient is gonna get 25th before the first 365.
lol with no adults in the room who's going to invoke the 25th? And as I've said many times, it's not clear that Trump dying tomorrow would solve anything.
 
Anything that riles up the Dems is simply delicious to you, regardless of the consequences. Enjoy your cake.

PS: There's shit around your mouth.
thats so cute. im a proud bo-sider as you controlled freaks love to label and put down people. while i enjoy riling dems up more simply because yall are such vile petty creatures, the red sheep are not immune to my type of condescension i assure u. i appreciate the space in that little pumpkin either way shape or form.
 
thats so cute. im a proud bo-sider as you controlled freaks love to label and put down people. while i enjoy riling dems up more simply because yall are such vile petty creatures, the red sheep are not immune to my type of condescension i assure u. i appreciate the space in that little pumpkin either way shape or form.
I use the space where my wife's adult diapers and my nonflushable wipes go. They help hide the stench.
 
thats so cute. im a proud bo-sider as you controlled freaks love to label and put down people. while i enjoy riling dems up more simply because yall are such vile petty creatures, the red sheep are not immune to my type of condescension i assure u. i appreciate the space in that little pumpkin either way shape or form.
You don't vote nor do you count. Just another shitty bot with no creativity or contribution. Please fuck straight off!
 
Sure doesn't seem the type. Too busy watching Hannity reruns—bet he records them all. His hero.
Hannity might as well be a RINO. He's a GWB stan. He's not nearly extreme enough for today's Fascist MAGA Party. To put your finger on the pulse of MAGA you gotta seek out the likes of Watters and Ingraham or pretty much anyone from the more extreme "news" networks.
 
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