Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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Mulberry Heel said:
Honestly I'm surprised he even showed up - many Congressional Republicans are just cancelling town halls and other public appearances in their districts so they can keep their heads in the sand and continue to believe that folks back home aren't getting upset over all of these cuts. Easier to ignore their own constituents rather than face the wrath of Dear Leader and his Co-President Musk. I've said this before, but they're a completely spineless and gutless bunch, the whole lot of them.
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Our coward is only doing town halls by phone with an invitation or sign up.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Not many Democrats in that part of the country for sure. Even in deep red districts they're facing a backlash, though, so I wonder if he'll just do what other Congressional Republicans have done and not show up in his district for a good while, at least in places where they might face real people who are pissed about all of these cuts.
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Salt of the earth folks there. They've dealt with horrible tornadoes. US Reps. are EZ pickings.
 
I'm sure this has been discussed many times before, I haven't been able to keep up with the sheer volume lately, but at what point do we stop using twitter here?

I appreciate being informed and all that. But it feels a bit like commuting to work in a VW in 1939.
 
While there is some value in comparing with the current degenerative governmental situation with 1933 Germany, a far more accurate analog could be the early days of Darth Putin's rule.


Vladimir Putin consolidated his roles and power as he moved from PM to President in 2012. He had been chipping away for years at the power of the Kremlin, Russia's sort of Congress.

Trump and our illegal South African alien are axing away at Article 1 of the US Constitution. Each branch, department, cabinet area has an oversight committee in Congress: defense, HUD, intelligence, etc. Not only are real people being indiscriminately fired (just like Israel's bombs - because Hamas is still around killing babies, but many of the Gazans are not) and thus gutting essential services (USAid, FBI, FAA, US Park Service, health care)...but are neutering Congress and gutting their role as well.

The answer to where this leads in time is obvious - de facto elimination of the need for Congress, where they become elected puppets as in Putin's world and subservient to the President and the American Oligarchy. So, there is a small deviation. The Russian Oligarchy functions somewhat independently of Putin - like mob rulers coordinating but allowing each autonomy. Here, the arrangement will be somewhere between modern Japan and 1930s Germany where oligarchs/business and the unitarian executive state are tied together.

Remember when Trump said there would be no need for elections after 2024? He meant it. When, oh when, will we begin to believe Trump's confessions and projections (both definitions: projection on enemies and into the future)?!

Congress is next on the chopping block. I mean, they are already low in popularity. SCOTUS is already in Darth Orange's pocket. This level of unitarian executive power and control of the military should NEVER exist in the United States. We do not want a King, whether Republican or Democrat! So sayeth the People!
 
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finesse said:
I like the Star Wars reference someone made the other day. Donald the Hutt.
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Yeah, I definitely think that Dear Leader has far more similarities to Jabba the Hutt than Darth Sidious or Darth Vader or any Sith Lord. Trump lacks the guts, deviousness, intelligence, self-discipline, and patience and long-term thinking that Sith Lords display. He's much more of a third-rate mob boss than a Lord of the Sith. Other members of his administration are far more likely to have Sith Lord traits than Trump, like Stephen Miller. But Dear Leader himself? Nah. He really is Jabba come to life.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Yeah, I definitely think that Dear Leader has far more similarities to Jabba the Hutt than Darth Sidious or Darth Vader or any Sith Lord. Trump lacks the guts, deviousness, intelligence, self-discipline, and patience and long-term thinking that Sith Lords display. He's much more of a third-rate mob boss than a Lord of the Sith. Other members of his administration are far more likely to have Sith Lord traits than Trump, like Stephen Miller. But Dear Leader himself? Nah. He really is Jabba come to life.
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I was thinking more his charming personality, manly physique and charitable heart.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
I don't get that. Of course it's okay to fire veterans. Some of them aren't going to be good workers.

I do think it's good to give them a leg up on the federal government hiring process, but if they're not performing or they are in a program that is getting cut, they're on the block like everybody else.
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Are you under the impression there is a performance component to who gets the boot in the current DOGE destruction of our federal government?
 
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gtyellowjacket said:
Yes.
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That's contradicted by basically all publicly available evidence. If they laid off the nuclear weapons folks and the bird flu folks, and then they had to hire them back, it wasn't performance based, was it?

And the fact that they have been focusing on probationary makes it clear that they aren't targeting performance. Rather, they are firing the people they can most easily fire.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Yes.
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Incorrect. Probationary employees aren't on probation bc of work or performance issues. It's a designation given to people who've just joined the government and/or some of those who've been there for years but transfered from different positions.

I'm stil in my early probationary period with the DOD as a civilian employee (EOD 12/2/24) and it doesn't end until 12-2-25 and I haven't even had my first performance review (it's at the end of this month). I'm fairly certain I'll get the top marks as I've been praised for my current work and even had the director of my division point out my current performance on an agency-wide all hands teams meeting. So if I were to get a letter saying I was let go for performance reasons it would absolutely be horseshit and I would sue and win.

Though I'm still in my probationary period, I'm fairly safe bc I'm emergency essential, meaning they would need an exceptionally good reason to let me go bc my job is mission critical.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Yes.
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I certainly don’t know the circumstances of every firing that has occurred, but I personally know people who have been let go despite ratings of commendable or outstanding. And I have not seen or heard any indication that that the actual performance of employees plays any roll in who gets fired.
 
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Incorrect. Probationary employees aren't on probation bc of work or performance issues. It's a designation given to people who've just joined the government and/or some of those who've been there for years but transfered from different positions.

I'm stil in my early probationary period with the DOD as a civilian employee (EOD 12/2/24) and it doesn't end until 12-2-25 and I haven't even had my first performance review (it's at the end of this month). I'm fairly certain I'll get the top marks as I've been praised for my current work and even had the director of my division point out my current performance on an agency-wide all hands teams meeting. So if I were to get a letter saying I was let go for performance reasons it would absolutely be horseshit and I would sue and win.

Though I'm still in my probationary period, I'm fairly safe bc I'm emergency essential, meaning they would need an exceptionally good reason to let me go bc my job is mission critical.
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Most companies put new workers on probation. It has nothing to do with performance. It’s just a designation that applies to all new workers.
 
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