Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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I dont believe it was anyone on any political spectrum. That kind of thing is related to mental illness not political ideology. Acting otherwise on a discussion message board is completely unacceptable.
If anything, the guy who fired a shot and the guy lining up a shot had/have a substantial right wing history.

Zen is representative of a social malignancy that was birth into the modern era by the John Birch society and blasted with rocket fuel by the internet.
 
Ramrouser has a storied tradition of blaming trans people for terrorism where it isn't the case.
Yeah, but Insurrectionist Barbie told Elon that three of the four perpetrators were trans or nonbinary so there’s that. Of course Ramrouser had to exaggerate and lie about that rock solid bit of reporting to demonstrate his fealty to the man he holds in higher esteem than Jesus Christ.
 
It doesn't. But the analogy addresses the issue of intent. You can't infer intent in a court of law merely from actions that could be easily explained in other ways. In order for a terrorism charge to stick, for instance, the jury would have to rule out "defendant was just angry" as a motivation, and on the evidence so far established, that would be impossible. As an attorney, you should know this -- but then again, there are a lot of things you don't know that you should.

This is why, for instance, the police often arrest people on minor crimes and then amend the indictment later. IIRC, the Boston Marathon bomber was initially detained on some minor charge, because that could be easily proven. Then, after investigating and finding actual evidence of intent, they charged with terrorism.

Some actions are res ipsa loquitur. Both bin Laden and McVeigh were clearly engaged in terrorism. There's no other way to describe those actions. Incidentally, because 9/11 was a transnational plot, the mens rea requirement would be lower and thus the required showing on intent is relaxed. But with McVeigh, the government had to prove a certain intent. IIRC, McVeigh either admitted to having that intent or didn't fight the point, but it would have been easily established of funding and anyway, because an anti-government activist blowing up a federal building speaks for itself.

But firebombing a Tesla dealership isn't remotely that. Hell, the government would have to prove that the defendants intended to cause property damage, which might not be possible. You'd have to rule out, "I was drunk and I was trying to throw this flaming bottle away from all the cars." This is why, often, crimes like this would be charged for a count requiring only a recklessness mens rea because that's obviously established. So before you can get these guys on terrorism, you'd have to be able to get them on malicious property destruction. It's so far away from a terrorism charge that even suggesting it should constitute prosecutorial misconduct.
Bondi is gathering facts regarding funding and coordination of these acts which might ultimately lead to domestic terrorism charges.
 
Bondi is gathering facts regarding funding and coordination of these acts which might ultimately lead to domestic terrorism charges.
No, what they are looking for is any excuse to declare a national emergency and consolidate power, Reichstag-style. They've been unable to provoke anything but a few Tesla fires, so that's what they are trying to run with. It's a pathetic attempt, but the whole administration is pathetic. Fucking idiots couldn't take the garbage to the curb if you spotted them the garage door.

There will not be any domestic terrorism convictions. Of that I am sure.
 
It's effing hilarious listening to idiots who loudly supported boycotts of Bud Light, Target, and other companies now crying and whining about Tesla being targeted for boycotts. Boo hoo. People have a right to express their anger at the guy who owns that company, and if that means not buying one or even taking a sledgehammer to their own Tesla or shooting it then so be it. It's hardly "illegal" as Trump claims. And if even if they damage a Tesla threatening to deport them to El Salvador or somewhere else is clearly unconstitutional.

Now if people are seriously threatening to kill Musk then that is obviously different, but boycotting his companies (and I wish more would get off Twitter) is perfectly acceptable. Leave it to Trumpers to ignore their own threats against products like Bud Light and Target and then whine about Tesla's plummeting sales and a boycott as somehow being illegal or dangerous. Snowflakes indeed.
The people they hate now hate them back. Trolling the libs has worked spectacularly, but they don't seem to be enjoying their victory.
 
“Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s boyfriend has a wild idea for dealing with vandals targeting Tesla dealerships.

Speaking on a broadcast Thursday, the reporter for Trump-loving Real America’s Voice suggested the vehicle manufacturer may need “Kyle Rittenhouse-style” armed guards at its outlets.

“Maybe it’s time to go full-on Kyle Rittenhouse-style security and start having armed security guards in front of a dealership,” Brian Glenn said. “If I was in charge of a dealership, that’s exactly what I would do because they are absolutely destroying a brand.” …”

 
The people they hate now hate them back. Trolling the libs has worked spectacularly, but they don't seem to be enjoying their victory.
Which is to be expected as they're the original snowflakes. Their view of themselves is apparently that they should be free to bully and harass and intimidate anyone they want, and say literally anything they want about any individual or group or race or gender, but there also should be no consequences for their behavior and actions and no one should be allowed to hate or criticize or give them a taste of their own medicine. They can go after Bud Light and take video clips of themselves shooting Bud Light cans, but how dare someone go after Tesla and do the same! They can call gays and transgenders and feminists and immigrants and others all sorts of nasty things, but let someone call them a slur or say anything they find offensive and they and Fox News get the vapors and lose their minds. In other words, they practice a huge double standard.
 
DOJ Designates Posting Photos Of Balding Elon Musk As Domestic Terrorism —

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Woods acknowledged that he and Vanessa Trump (Don Jr.’s Ex) are dating but then requested privacy, which why shouldn’t he have privacy but why publicly announce the relationship just to ask people to ignore it? Who knows.
 


Woods acknowledged that he and Vanessa Trump (Don Jr.’s Ex) are dating but then requested privacy, which why shouldn’t he have privacy but why publicly announce the relationship just to ask people to ignore it? Who knows.

We all know Tiger is the GOAT in golf
And a flunky in the world of character
 
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