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Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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If he gets elected and actually tries to implement these insane tariffs then our economy is going to crash, and very likely it'll be worse than the Great Recession that started in late 2008. Apparently he's never heard of the Hawley-Smoot Tariff. And for all his talk about what a paradise the 1890s were, there was actually a severe economic depression for much of the decade (following the Panic of 1893) and there were several violent labor strikes in the decade that were crushed by a combination of hired corporate thugs, scabs, and the government supporting the corporations and Gilded Age tycoons over the workers. It was hardly the worker's paradise the Trump claims it was.
 
nycfan said:
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The underlying central problem - in addition to people thinking that MAGA is somehow playing by the same rules that we are - is that his supporters just don't care. In many cases, his defiance of reality is actually what they like about him. You could have a simple chart irrefutably proving that they actually are losing out by the whole Trump tariff thing, and they still wouldn't give a shit. And this is extremely difficult to combat. It is a cult in every respect.

As I have said a million times, this is an electorate problem far more than it is a candidate problem.
 
evrheel said:
Started and worked at an opto contract manufacturer; we added the Tariff on top of the imported part price and passed it on to the our US customers
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Yep, there’s a multiplier effect because you make margin on the tariff.
 
gizmodo.com

Elon Musk Fans Are Losing So Much Money to Crypto Scams

Read the complaints filed with the FTC about scams that use Elon Musk's face.
gizmodo.com gizmodo.com

Some people in the complaints believed they were talking directly with Musk, a sadly common story that has popped up in news reports before. But they weren’t talking with Musk, of course. They were communicating with scammers engaging in what’s called pig butchering—the name for a type of fraud popularized in the mid-2010s where scammers extract as much money as possible through flattery and promises of tremendous profits if the victim just “invests” where they’re told.

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One person in Michigan who reported losing $700,000 to scammers explained they became suspicious “because I am not able to get information about the company, such as an address, email address or any other contact information except the phone number.” Another victim in Nevada who lost over $220,000 said they “saw a commercial featuring Elon Musk” that appeared “on either TikTok or Instagram” that was “asking people to join his AI trading platform.”
 
altmin said:
gizmodo.com

Elon Musk Fans Are Losing So Much Money to Crypto Scams

Read the complaints filed with the FTC about scams that use Elon Musk's face.
gizmodo.com gizmodo.com

Some people in the complaints believed they were talking directly with Musk, a sadly common story that has popped up in news reports before. But they weren’t talking with Musk, of course. They were communicating with scammers engaging in what’s called pig butchering—the name for a type of fraud popularized in the mid-2010s where scammers extract as much money as possible through flattery and promises of tremendous profits if the victim just “invests” where they’re told.

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One person in Michigan who reported losing $700,000 to scammers explained they became suspicious “because I am not able to get information about the company, such as an address, email address or any other contact information except the phone number.” Another victim in Nevada who lost over $220,000 said they “saw a commercial featuring Elon Musk” that appeared “on either TikTok or Instagram” that was “asking people to join his AI trading platform.”
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John Oliver did a great piece on pig butchering several months ago.

 

Trump Treasury Contender Pledges to Work With Musk to Slash Spending​

Investor John Paulson, a Trump ally, says he would also work on trade and energy if he became Treasury secretary​


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Paulson, an ally of the former president, said in an interview his top priority would be extending Donald Trump’s expiring 2017 tax cuts, followed by “working with Musk to reduce federal spending,” particularly by getting rid of the subsidies for green energy in the Inflation Reduction Act, which he referred to as the Green New Deal.

“All of these tax subsidies for solar, for wind, inefficient, uneconomic energy sources,” said Paulson. “Eliminate that. That brings down spending.”

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Trump has promised to make Musk the head of a new “government efficiency commission” if he wins in November. The Musk-led group would advise Trump where to make cuts in federal spending. Paulson said he hasn’t spoken to Musk about teaming up.

Musk said this week he could cut at least $2 trillion from the federal budget, but didn’t say how. The U.S. government spent $6.75 trillion in the last fiscal year, according to the Congressional Budget Office, over half of which went to Social Security and Medicare—which Trump has promised not to touch—defense, and interest on the debt.

… While the 2022 law’s tax credits have helped Tesla, Musk said during his company’s second-quarter earnings call that a rollback of the incentives would only “slightly” hurt the company, but it would also be “devastating for our competitors” and in the “long term, it probably actually helps” Tesla. …”
 

Elon Musk ordered to court over potentially illegal $1 million giveaway after DA receives ‘avalanche’ of threats​

Musk’s posts have inspired calls for masked intruders to visit the Philadelphia prosecutor’s home, attorneys claim

www.independent.co.uk

Elon Musk ordered to court over $1 million giveaway after ‘avalanche’ of threats

Musk’s posts have inspired calls for masked intruders to visit the Philadelphia prosecutor’s home, attorneys claim
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk

"Elon Musk has been ordered to appear in a Philadelphia courtroom after the city’s top prosecutor accused the world’s wealthiest person of illegally awarding $1 million to registered voters in the state.

The same day Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner sued Musk and his political action committee this week, the billionaire shared a post on X — the social media platform he owns — that claimed Krasner “knows it’s not illegal but wants a leftist judge to stop it before Election Day.”


That post “immediately triggered an avalanche of posts from Musk’s followers,” including “antisemitic attacks” against the district attorney and threats of violence, attorneys for Krasner’s office told a judge on Wednesday in a push for additional security at an upcoming court hearing.


“Even worse, one account responded to posts about the lawsuit at least 19 times by inviting political violence, posting Krasner family’s home address,” according to the filing, which quotes one user as repeatedly posting on X that “Krasner loves visitors. Mask up and leave all cellphones at home.”

“These posts, which unquestionably are criminal … remain posted on Musk’s X website today,” the complaint states. ..."​

 
nycfan said:
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I had previously posted that but deleted it because I could not find the original tweets. This tweet only has an image.

Not saying that this isn’t true but
nycfan said:

Elon Musk ordered to court over potentially illegal $1 million giveaway after DA receives ‘avalanche’ of threats​

Musk’s posts have inspired calls for masked intruders to visit the Philadelphia prosecutor’s home, attorneys claim​

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www.independent.co.uk

Elon Musk ordered to court over $1 million giveaway after ‘avalanche’ of threats

Musk’s posts have inspired calls for masked intruders to visit the Philadelphia prosecutor’s home, attorneys claim
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk

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"Elon Musk has been ordered to appear in a Philadelphia courtroom after the city’s top prosecutor accused the world’s wealthiest person of illegally awarding $1 million to registered voters in the state.​

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The same day Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner sued Musk and his political action committee this week, the billionaire shared a post on X — the social media platform he owns — that claimed Krasner “knows it’s not illegal but wants a leftist judge to stop it before Election Day.”​

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That post “immediately triggered an avalanche of posts from Musk’s followers,” including “antisemitic attacks” against the district attorney and threats of violence, attorneys for Krasner’s office told a judge on Wednesday in a push for additional security at an upcoming court hearing.​

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“Even worse, one account responded to posts about the lawsuit at least 19 times by inviting political violence, posting Krasner family’s home address,” according to the filing, which quotes one user as repeatedly posting on X that “Krasner loves visitors. Mask up and leave all cellphones at home.”​

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“These posts, which unquestionably are criminal … remain posted on Musk’s X website today,” the complaint states. ..."​

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Someone really needs to get Musk into rehab.

No doubt he was always a narcissistic and racist person, but he wasn’t actively causing himself harm such as putting himself at legal risk, overpaying by several fold for Twitter, and cratering its reputation.

I don’t think he is mentally well and the ketamine abuse might explain it.
 
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