8992Tiger
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I think this is inaccurate at least according to none other than Benito Mussolini: “The Fascist State directs and controls the entrepreneurs, whether it be in our fisheries or in our heavy industry in the Val d'Aosta. There the State actually owns the mines and carries on transport, for the railways are state property. So are many of the factories… We term it state intervention… If anything fails to work properly, the State intervenes.”Anarchist probably isn’t a good word to describe a group of people that are attempting to further fuse state and corporate power to achieve their reactionary political goals. The traditional word used to describe this is: fascist.
Would love to know which of Trump's donors made bank on this manufactured dip.The Dow is already recovering
I don't think Musk has real political goals. He just wants to drain the blood out of every living thing for his personal benefit. I see that as a form of anarchism, but reasonable minds could disagree.Anarchist probably isn’t a good word to describe a group of people that are attempting to further fuse state and corporate power to achieve their reactionary political goals. The traditional word used to describe this is: fascist.
I think he has real political goals, and they scare the shit out of me.
The closest I can get is authoritarianism, with fascist tendencies.That’s fair. Ultimately, fascist is a term that has a very specific historical context that doesn’t really fit well to our current circumstances. The other piece being fascism generally requires a strong labor movement in opposition in order to frame its program.
I just think it’s the closest thing we have to a working term for Musk, Thiel, etc.
You're right, but I think also you know what was meant. Maybe "chaos monkey" would be a better term.Anarchist probably isn’t a good word to describe a group of people that are attempting to further fuse state and corporate power to achieve their reactionary political goals. The traditional word used to describe this is: fascist.
"Chaos Monkey" is pretty fucking accurate.You're right, but I think also you know what was meant. Maybe "chaos monkey" would be a better term.
Interesting. I like that term. Especially since, as now, the acquiescence of the uneducated, scared, superstitious serfs was always an essential part of the feudal model.The term they prefer is neofeudalism.
Yarvin is a fucking moron, but he definitely calls for techno-feudalism with a CEO king and the right of exit for his subjects.Is that from Thiel’s theory work? I’ll admit I can’t bring myself to read the stuff he puts out. Seems similar to the dribble that Yarvin espouses. IIRC, he is a big influence on Thiel.
ETA: just saw your edit re: Yarvin.
This is different from what Musk is going how exactly?I think this is inaccurate at least according to none other than Benito Mussolini: “The Fascist State directs and controls the entrepreneurs, whether it be in our fisheries or in our heavy industry in the Val d'Aosta. There the State actually owns the mines and carries on transport, for the railways are state property. So are many of the factories… We term it state intervention… If anything fails to work properly, the State intervenes.”
In other words, the state gives businesses wide latitude until the businesses mess up and then the state takes over. In any case, the state is supreme over the business interests.
The technical term of corporations over the state is a corporatocracy. You really rarely see that at a national level. Some examples might be things like the British East India company or the Hudson Bay company. Some folks might call Saudi Arabia corporatocracy. Disney world has a bit of a corporatocracy at least at the local level.
1. Fascism does not require a strong labor movement in opposition. Sometimes the labor movement is the fascism. And the fascists in Central America sure as hell didn't need labor movements to define them as fascists. The raping and pillaging of indigenous peoples is sufficient.That’s fair. Ultimately, fascist is a term that has a very specific historical context that doesn’t really fit well to our current circumstances. The other piece being fascism generally requires a strong labor movement in opposition in order to frame its program.
I just think it’s the closest thing we have to a working term for Musk, Thiel, etc.