Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

[BlooVooDoo]

I don't even know where to start. Just click through and read through it. Teslas made in 5 seconds, Roman legions of robots etc etc

I think he might be insane. I’m surprised he didn’t say he’s got ideas for a TARDIS that should be ready within 10 years.

 

[ZenMode]

Tesla Attack Map Shows Wave of Elon Musk Products Being Targeted​

Cybertrucks set ablaze, showrooms defaced, and charging stations shot at—a wave in attacks on Tesla properties and products has been reported across the U.S.

Tesla attack map shows wave of Elon Musk products being targeted

Musk's increasing influence in the White House under President Donald Trump appears to have made his company Tesla a target for political backlash.

www.newsweek.com

Jimmy Kimmel Jokes About Encouraging People To Burn More Teslas During Elon Musk Rant​

Jimmy Kimmel Jokes About Encouraging People To Burn More Teslas During Elon Musk Rant

All across the country, left-wing wannabe terrorists are vandalizing and burning Tesla vehicles in protest of Elon Musk's role in efforts to help DOGE shrink wasteful government sp

www.outkick.com

 

[StrangePackage]

Jimmy Kimmel Jokes About Encouraging People To Burn More Teslas During Elon Musk Rant​

Jimmy Kimmel Jokes About Encouraging People To Burn More Teslas During Elon Musk Rant

All across the country, left-wing wannabe terrorists are vandalizing and burning Tesla vehicles in protest of Elon Musk's role in efforts to help DOGE shrink wasteful government sp

www.outkick.com

Remember when Elon declared humor was legal again on Twitter?

Guess that doesn't apply to jokes about flaming swastikars

 

[ChileG]

Tesla Attack Map Shows Wave of Elon Musk Products Being Targeted​

Cybertrucks set ablaze, showrooms defaced, and charging stations shot at—a wave in attacks on Tesla properties and products has been reported across the U.S.

Tesla attack map shows wave of Elon Musk products being targeted

Musk's increasing influence in the White House under President Donald Trump appears to have made his company Tesla a target for political backlash.

www.newsweek.com

Minor compared to the damage he is causing to the rest of us.

 

[superrific]

Jimmy Kimmel Jokes About Encouraging People To Burn More Teslas During Elon Musk Rant​

Jimmy Kimmel Jokes About Encouraging People To Burn More Teslas During Elon Musk Rant

All across the country, left-wing wannabe terrorists are vandalizing and burning Tesla vehicles in protest of Elon Musk's role in efforts to help DOGE shrink wasteful government sp

www.outkick.com

Always. Must. Be. The. Victim.

It's almost performance art the way they tell people to stop "bedwetting" over the inhumane deportations of innocent people to a Central American hellhole, and then complain when someone pauses after reporting that there was vandalism at Tesla dealerships.

[it's not terrorism, btw, not by any definition of terrorism used by the government]

 

[Delta74]

January 6 protestors were peaceful protesters.

Tesla protestors are terrorists.

DJT and bosiders

 

[ZenMode]

Always. Must. Be. The. Victim.

It's almost performance art the way they tell people to stop "bedwetting" over the inhumane deportations of innocent people to a Central American hellhole, and then complain when someone pauses after reporting that there was vandalism at Tesla dealerships.

[it's not terrorism, btw, not by any definition of terrorism used by the government]

Surely you can see the irony in this statement coming from a member of a party that can find victimization where it doesn't exist.

 

[altmin]

January 6 protestors were peaceful protesters.

Tesla protestors are terrorists.

DJT and bosiders

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/20/tesla-charges-arson-trump-musk-bondi-doj.html

• President Donald Trump suggested that people found guilty of damaging Tesla properties could serve their sentences in El Salvador prisons.
• The threat came after Attorney General Pam Bondi touted federal cases against people accused of setting fire to Tesla cars and property, and Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick urged people to buy Tesla stock.

 

[superrific]

Surely you can see the irony in this statement coming from a member of a party that can find victimization where it doesn't exist.

I'm not MAGA. Do you have me confused for someone else? Nobody does grievance like MAGA does grievance.

 

[superrific]

January 6 protestors were peaceful protesters.

Tesla protestors are terrorists.

I get your point, but if people are setting fires, they aren't just protesters. They've graduated to vandals, or maybe arsonists (I don't know much about the legal definitions of arson and what the elements of that crime entail). They are also not terrorists.

 

[Delta74]

I get your point, but if people are setting fires, they aren't just protesters. They've graduated to vandals, or maybe arsonists (I don't know much about the legal definitions of arson and what the elements of that crime entail). They are also not terrorists.

Of course violence is not acceptable. That’s why all of this is so hypocritical to see and hear from the Magats.

 

[ZenMode]

I get your point, but if people are setting fires, they aren't just protesters. They've graduated to vandals, or maybe arsonists (I don't know much about the legal definitions of arson and what the elements of that crime entail). They are also not terrorists.

ter·ror·ist
/ˈterərəst/
https://www.google.com/search?sca_e...2ahUKEwjryNSf45uMAxWGiO4BHVUSMFcQ3eEDegQIOxAM
noun

1. a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

Even posters here recognize the political goals of this.

Politics - I believe Musk’s actions are harming Tesla’s stock price

 

[Paine]

ter·ror·ist
/ˈterərəst/
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noun

1. a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

Even posters here recognize the political goals of this.

Politics - I believe Musk’s actions are harming Tesla’s stock price

Can one commit violence against a car?

 

[mpaer]

Can one commit violence against a car?

I saw one guy wrote something on one with a Sharpie
About the size of a decal or small bumper sticker
It was terrifying

 

[superrific]

18 USC 2331 (Definitions) (5):

(5) the term "domestic terrorism" means activities that—

(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State; and

(B) appear to be intended—

(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or

(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and

Burning Tesla vehicles in a parking lot is not intended for any of those purposes. Terrorism usually involves:

1. Organizations that use repeated terror attacks in order to advance a set of aims associated with the organization (examples: Hamas, Weatherman)
2. Manifestos. There are almost always manifestos of some sort. Baader-Meinhof had them; Unabomber had them; Luigi sort of had one.
3. Specifically targeted behaviors: this isn't always present, but there's usually some sort of triggering behavior. Kill the magazine writers if they put Muhammed on the cover; kill abortion providers or abortion patients; kill US military.

There are no indices of terrorism. It's just rage. Rage is not the same thing. By your definition, the riots after George Floyd would be terrorism, but they were just riots. I'm not even sure I would consider J6 to be terrorism. It was more insurrection.

 

[superrific]

BTW, the prohibitions on "terrorism" under the federal law apply to:

1. Murder related to terrorism activities
2. Destruction of property IF the conduct transcends national boundaries (i.e. the World Trade Center bombing)
3. Radiological devices, weapons of mass destruction, anti-aircraft missiles.
4. "a explosive or other lethal device into, or against a place of public use, a state or government facility, a public transportation system, or an infrastructure facility-"

Firebombing Tesla dealerships doesn't come close to meeting any of these types of conduct, in addition to not fitting the definition in 2331.

 

[ZenMode]

Can one commit violence against a car?

"Against".... Probably not.

 

[finesse]

As a political crime, it's more like stealing campaign signs. There's more to it as a property crime but ,with the decreasing values of the vehicles, I'd be watching if I were their insurance companies as well.

 

[superrific]

"Against".... Probably not.

Always amusing that when I trot out the statutes, you disappear.

 

[ZenMode]

Always amusing that when I trot out the statutes, you disappear.

Or I'm busy.