Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

  • Thread starter Thread starter nycfan
  • Start date Start date
  • Replies: 12K
  • Views: 643K
  • Politics 
Bobfripp said:
It'd be a big deal to me. It should disqualify him for the highest office in the land for sure, and I would want him to be indicted for it at least. Shouldn't being POTUS require greater character, not to mention law-abiding behavior, than the average US citizen?
Click to expand...
I guess not. Democracy sucks sometimes.

And just to add that I voted against Trump because of the J6 stuff but the convictions didn't move the meter for me.
 
nycfan said:


Most diverse?

IMG_4017.jpeg
IMG_4018.jpeg
Click to expand...


Wray is giving Trump the finger on his way out the door. Because Wray is resigning, even a temporary replacement can only be someone who has already been Senate confirmed (or served as a senior staff for at least 90 days in the prior year). So no Acting Head of FBI appointment for Kash Patel, he will have to go through Senate confirmation.

"under the Vacancies Reform Act, if a vacancy occurs in a Senate-confirmed position, the president "can temporarily replace that appointee (such as the FBI director) only with a person who has already received Senate confirmation or with a person who has served in a senior capacity in the agency for at least 90 days in the year before the resignation."
 
Ramrouser said:
Yes. they are not DEI picks. I think Elon, Vivek el al. could do a pretty good job running a company. Elon's the Ford/Edison/Tesla of our era. Dr. Carson was known as a pretty decent neurosurgeon. I would trust Pete Hegseth to lead a platoon of soldiers in battle. Scott Bessent is more than capable of managing my money, etc.
Click to expand...
DEI picks are qualified in their field, which trump's picks aren't. Someone being able to manage your money isn't any more qualified to lead the Treasury Department of the United States than someone who plays Flight Simulator is qualified to fly an F-35 in combat. Dr. Carson may have been an outstanding neurosurgeon, but that doesn't mean he can coach football or lead HUD. Linda McMahon may have helped run a fake rasslin' organization, but she is completely and totally unqualified to run the Department of Education. What's the biggest organization Hesgeth has run? How big is the DOD? I mean, WTF are people thinking?
 
Mulberry Heel said:
I'd love to as well, but that's not possible for everyone, or even a great majority of people. Depending on the surveys and studies I've read, at least 40% of retirees depend almost entirely on Social Security for their retirement income, and many more need it as a supplement to what other savings they do have. Abolishing, privatizing, or even just significantly cutting it will be a disaster of epic proportions, imo. Not that Trump or Elon or any of their other plutocrat buddies would care, of course.
Click to expand...
If they abolish SS, there will be a replacement plan to deal with the people who lived thinking it would be there and now border homelessness when they are no longer able to work.
 
ColdBlueSteel said:
Typical shocking excerpted byline, but is there not truth to Elon’s framing of the problem?
Click to expand...
Why do you say that? There are plenty of violent people with permanent housing. There are plenty of drug addicts with permanent housing. There are plenty of severely mentally ill people with permanent housing. The through line for those we call “homeless” is the lack of permanent housing. There are also plenty of those people who are not drug addicts, violent, or severely mentally ill. So how is that characterization a “lie.”
 
lawtig02 said:
Why do you say that? There are plenty of violent people with permanent housing. There are plenty of drug addicts with permanent housing. There are plenty of severely mentally ill people with permanent housing. The through line for those we call “homeless” is the lack of permanent housing. There are also plenty of those people who are not drug addicts, violent, or severely mentally ill. So how is that characterization a “lie.”
Click to expand...
It’s not a lie, they are homeless, but if a significant amount of these people are this afflicted, focusing on the “homelessness”, as opposed to the root cause of that homelessness shifts the focus away from what *may* be a failure of policy/government.
 
ColdBlueSteel said:
It’s not a lie, they are homeless, but if a significant amount of these people are this afflicted, focusing on the “homelessness”, as opposed to the root cause of that homelessness shifts the focus away from what *may* be a failure of policy/government.
Click to expand...
It’s not like government and nonprofits are ignoring the other problems. There’s a lot of work being done there, too. But the evidence is pretty overwhelming that absent permanent housing, there’s very little chance of getting people the help they need for the underlying problems.

I’m also not convinced Elon really wants to do anything to help the underlying problems. I suspect his goal is just to crack down on visible homelessness, not to help those who would be displaced find the help they need. Because doing that will require an ENORMOUS public investment, which doesn’t seem to be in DOGE’s sight line.
 
Last edited:
lawtig02 said:
It’s not like government and nonprofits are ignoring the other problems. There’s a lot of work being done there, too. But the evidence is pretty overwhelmingly that absent permanent housing, there’s very little chance of getting people the help they need for the underlying problems.

I’m also not convinced Elon really wants to do anything to help the underlying problems. I suspect his goal is just to crack down on visible homelessness, not to help those who would be displaced find the help they need. Because doing that will require an ENORMOUS public investment, which doesn’t seem to be in DOGE’s sight line.
Click to expand...
This is the thing - Elon cares not at all about underlying pathologies, or helping the people afflicted. The cruelty is the point.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top