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Healing said:
www.usatoday.com

Why Pete Hegseth nomination is a milestone for the rightwing Christian movement he follows

To rightwing church movement he follows, Pete Hegseth's nomination is an answered prayer amid push for Christian influence in government and military.
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Because … he’s a Christian Nationalist?

You can do your tired hand wavy thing, now.
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The linked article didn't provide much. He attends a church in Tennessee that is linked to a pastor in Idaho that is controversial. The article has a lot of generic "they" do this and "they" want that. Very broad-brush and indiscriminate. As an atheist, I'm more than happy to ridicule people for irrational religious views, but there just isn't much there to comment on.
 
WaynetheDrain said:
He’s been getting obliterated by the gaming community for this. Some of the top Twitch streamers have been unloading on him for having someone else build the character up for him and then taking credit for being one of the top players in the world when he clearly doesn’t even know how to play the game.

Yes, in the grand scheme of things, it’s just video games, but it’s so on brand for this guy to take credit for the hard work and ingenuity of others.
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But the hardcore gaming communities and the Musk schtuppers often operate in the same circle of the Venn diagram. Some are probably a bit conflicted on which outrage organ to stroke over this news.
 
BlooVooDoo said:
Don’t worry about worker shortages. Many states have already relaxed child labor regulations. I’m sure more will follow.
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If the GOP manages to totally destroy the idea of public education, children will need something to keep 'em off the streets. Don't want street urchins making mischief.
 
Huh? said:
Um, we already have one. The US, Eritrea and Hungary are the only countries to tax its expatriates on worldwide income regardless of where income is earned.
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yeah, and it freaking sucks.
 
finesse said:
I expect that, in a spirit of bipartisanship, they are going to invoke the spirit of their fellow populist, Andy Jackson and his crowning achievement, the Trail of Tears.
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Nothing evil to see here... we are a Jesus loving nation. So passé is “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free”.
 
ZenMode said:
I suspect we're going to see the first 3 differently.

"Documented alcoholism" I assume is based on accusations of former Fox employee, many more employees have disputed the claim.

"Sexual assault" is an accusation for which there was no legal action ever taken.

"Misogyny" is probably a reference to his views on women in the military. It's a stretch to say that not lowering established physical requirements is "misogyny"

I'm not sure what the Christian Nationalism is a reference to.
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No. There are no two ways to see any of it.

- Documented Alcoholism refers to him admitting that he's had problems with alcohol abuse.
In August 2021, Pete Hegseth said on Will Cain’s podcast that slowly, surely, “by the grace of God,” he had been able to undo a pattern of alcohol abuse that had dogged him since he returned from military combat in Iraq in 2006
I'm not going to list all the examples. There are many. And you know full well that he has an admitted documented history of it.

- Sexual Assault refers to the incident in which he restrained a woman from leaving a motel room and then sexually assaulted her. There were no formal charges because he entered into a settlement agreement with his accuser.

- Misogyny refers to the numerous statements made throughout the years about women serving in combat roles. It has nothing to do with lowering standards for them. He specifically stated that women should NOT serve in combat roles.

- Christian Nationalism refers to the Christian battle cry he has on his arm. A phrase championed by the proud boys and extremists who participated in J6.

So we can continue to engage in this inane bullshittery or you can answer my question. Would you consider someone with a documented history of alcohol abuse, sexual assault, misogyny, and Christian Nationalism mentally stable?
 
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cross tattoos are the worst. They are for people who really want a tattoo but are afraid of the stigma of having one. So, they get a cross tattoo.
But I’m sure Christianity is really important to the serial philandering, sexual assaulting drunkard.
 
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ZenMode said:
The linked article didn't provide much. He attends a church in Tennessee that is linked to a pastor in Idaho that is controversial. The article has a lot of generic "they" do this and "they" want that. Very broad-brush and indiscriminate. As an atheist, I'm more than happy to ridicule people for irrational religious views, but there just isn't much there to comment on.
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Like fucking clockwork.
 
It's this simple. If you think Pete Hegseth is qualified to be the Secretary of Defense, you're willing to put the 2.86 million American military personnel at extreme risk. It will be the most reckless decision made by either party in decades, and Republicans will own any little thing that goes wrong from here on. It's no different than making Rudy Giuliani our secretary of state.
 
lawtig02 said:
It's this simple. If you think Pete Hegseth is qualified to be the Secretary of Defense, you're willing to put the 2.86 million American military personnel at extreme risk. It will be the most reckless decision made by either party in decades, and Republicans will own any little thing that goes wrong from here on. It's no different than making Rudy Giuliani our secretary of state.
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The hypocrisy of constantly squealing about how the most qualified person must be the one who gets every job followed by nominating the most objectively unqualified person to ever be put forward to run the military of all things is just stunning. They squeal about how the mere appearance of not having the best person possible when nominating KBJ for the Supreme Court is disqualifying regardless of her credentials, then set about making excuses for why Hegseth is ok despite having almost none.
 
lawtig02 said:
It's this simple. If you think Pete Hegseth is qualified to be the Secretary of Defense, you're willing to put the 2.86 million American military personnel at extreme risk. It will be the most reckless decision made by either party in decades, and Republicans will own any little thing that goes wrong from here on. It's no different than making Rudy Giuliani our secretary of state.
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If you take away his alleged baggage related to drinking, women and religion, he's still not qualified. I don't think he's nearly as bad as he's portrayed by Democrats, but he's just not qualified to run a department of that size
 
lawtig02 said:
It's this simple. If you think Pete Hegseth is qualified to be the Secretary of Defense, you're willing to put the 2.86 million American military personnel at extreme risk. It will be the most reckless decision made by either party in decades, and Republicans will own any little thing that goes wrong from here on. It's no different than making Rudy Giuliani our secretary of state.
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hell, at least Rudy had some relatively high level experience.

it's like they picked hegseth specifically because he is a wholly unqualified disaster. he checks every box - sex/marital scandals, abuse allegations, financial impropriety, discrimination, extremism, substance abuse issues, etc. etc. etc.
 
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