Trump orders troops to “War ravaged” PORTLAND

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Ramrouser said:
Turning a blind eye on allowing Antifa to attack ICE facilities and personnel. Johnson's PD wouldn't even provide assistance to ICE when they were surrounded by "protestors." This is where the Texas National Guard comes into play.
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1. What is your understanding of the 10th Amendment's anti-commandeering principles as articulated in Printz and its progeny cases? Is the federal government allowed, or not allowed, to make decisions that require a local or state official to participate in the scheme?

2. What is your understanding of the anti-commandeering principles asserted by you and other conservatives in the context of border patrol in Texas. Can the federal government utilize the national guard for to assist in removing obstacles from federal waters that were illegally placed there.

3. Should the Chicago Police Department be required to partner with the federal government on blatantly illegal actions? If ICE were to, say, blow up a residence with artillery, and then the artillery unit was attacked by residents, is the Chicago PD obliged to help ICE? That is, does ICE's unconstitutional actions require the Chicago PD to make itself complicit in such assaults? Or is the Chicago PD allowed to say, "you blew up that building against our will; the backlash is your problem and not ours."

4. Isn't this exact scenario -- i.e. local police departments given a Hobson's choice between associating itself with jackbootery and forsaking federal law enforcement to its own mistakes -- precisely WHY the military is typically not allowed to do law enforcement. Is it true that the harm you cite exists only because Trump is not respecting the law that seeks to make this situation not occur?

5. What does Printz say (remember the author) about accountability for local PDs?
 
pspsps said:
I imagine that poster nodding his head to this paragraph. They seem to endorse a dictatorship.
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Lots of countries use their military for law enforcement. France has used them continuously for about a decade to combat terrorism.

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Italy uses them for border control and some police functions.

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The UK doesn't use them on a permanent basis but they use them frequently for terrorism and sometimes crowd control. Japan uses them for crowd control and sometimes to protect infrastructure. Canada uses them. This doesn't automatically lead to despotism.
 
Ramrouser said:
Admittedly that was a bit of humor to lighten the mood. There was a serious carjacking there years ago but in 2020/2021 there were reports of women having their purses or packages snatched while getting out of their cars waiting in the valet line. The women complained that these events were attempted car jackings so the Club put in extra security.
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Schrodinger's Asshole.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Lots of countries use their military for law enforcement. France has used them continuously for about a decade to combat terrorism.

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Italy uses them for border control and some police functions.

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The UK doesn't use them on a permanent basis but they use them frequently for terrorism and sometimes crowd control. Japan uses them for crowd control and sometimes to protect infrastructure. Canada uses them. This doesn't automatically lead to despotism.
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You're citing Italy? For a proposition about fascism? Seriously?

Canada does not "use" them except in the same way as the U.S. -- isolated, sporadic uses during bona fide emergencies.

Japan's constitution prohibits the use of military for domestic purposes.

France has a special military unit called the Gendarmerie. That happens to be classified as a military function (they have a history, you know) but it is a specialized and separately trained force that is more akin to the FBI or SWAT units.

And again you've badly misstated facts to further your agenda.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Lots of countries use their military for law enforcement. France has used them continuously for about a decade to combat terrorism.

1000002058.jpg

Italy uses them for border control and some police functions.

1000002059.jpg

The UK doesn't use them on a permanent basis but they use them frequently for terrorism and sometimes crowd control. Japan uses them for crowd control and sometimes to protect infrastructure. Canada uses them. This doesn't automatically lead to despotism.
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We don’t.

I’ll repeat: WE. DON’T.

The crazy lengths you bosiding fuckwits go through to normalize this shit is beyond my ability to comprehend.
 
Zoo_View said:
Look at all the black smoke from multiple fires all across Portland. Rubble and destroyed buildings everywhere. Portland looks worse than SE Ukraine and GAZA.

I’m impressed with how ICE Barbie and her brown shirts could breathe without wearing masks.
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Total hellscape.
 
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