Trump Retribution Phase | Signalgate 3.0 - Lindsay Halligan

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nycfan said:
Retribution aside, it does sound like Bolton is facing a considerably more serious case than Comey and James. Like maybe cop a plea serious.
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This afternoon Andrew Weissman also pointed out the charges are much more significant than those faced by Trump’s other targets.
 
lmao dump is owning the f out of the blue side

what or better yet who has the balls to stop him from having all kinds of fake stuff generated? ole billary might just get locked up after all
 
nycfan said:
Retribution aside, it does sound like Bolton is facing a considerably more serious case than Comey and James. Like maybe cop a plea serious.
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But he still has a vindictive prosecution defense and even though I have no love for Bolton at all, it is important that he not be convicted. Even if he is guilty. So that Trump comes to understand that his involvement in the Justice Department is entirely counter productive.
 
superrific said:
But he still has a vindictive prosecution defense and even though I have no love for Bolton at all, it is important that he not be convicted. Even if he is guilty. So that Trump comes to understand that his involvement in the Justice Department is entirely counter productive.
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Nothing will convince Trump that anything he does is counterproductive; he and his cronies will just blame woke judges and a liberal jury if they don’t win the case, but meanwhile Trump will delight in putting the accused through the wringer.
 
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nycfan said:
Nothing will convince Trump that anything he does is counterproductive; he and his cronies will just blame woke judges and a liberal jury if they don’t win the case, but meanwhile Trump will delight in putting the accused through the ringer.
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Yep. And win or lose, he gets the media attention. I'm sure he wouldn't mind bankrupting Bolton and potentially putting him in jail, but what Trump most wants is the attention. It's been a very successful formula for him.
 
nycfan said:
Nothing will convince Trump that anything he does is counterproductive; he and his cronies will just blame woke judges and a liberal jury if they don’t win the case, but meanwhile Trump will delight in putting the accused through the ringer.
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Fair point. I guess I didn't mean Trump so much as those around him, but even that might be not true.
 
nycfan said:
Nothing will convince Trump that anything he does is counterproductive; he and his cronies will just blame woke judges and a liberal jury if they don’t win the case, but meanwhile Trump will delight in putting the accused through the ringer.
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^Bingo. Even if he doesn't win these cases Trump is still getting what he wants, which is putting all the people he hates through the public humiliation and private misery and stress and strain of going through a trial or at least being arrested and booked. It's incredibly petty and yet fits perfectly with what we know about him. Of course this insn't about "justice" or anything so noble, it's about petty personal revenge and vindictiveness. He lives for this stuff.
 
It does sound like Bolton is guilty, and I have no love for the guy. It seems like the one legitimate prosecution from this admin so far.
 
superrific said:
Fair point. I guess I didn't mean Trump so much as those around him, but even that might be not true.
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I would say you are both missing the point. The churn is the entirety of the strategy. Are either of you familiar with Colonel John Boyd and the OODA loop? (Boyd in my opinion was a ruthless self promoter, but the concept is sound).

OODA stands for Observer, Orient, Decide, Act, and Boyd's postulation was that whichever side is able to complete this loop more quickly on the battlefield will create a sustainable advantage over their adversary. By being "inside" your opponent's OODA loop you can dictate the terms of engagement.

Trump has hacked out a version of this notion that is more of an A-A-A-A loop. Continuously fire off actions that will take years to litigate and do it at the pace of one or more a day. It simply doesn't matter what the end result of any one action is, because you have fully over saturated the system and are producing "bad consequences" several orders of magnitude faster than the system can clean them up. He's dictating the terms of engagement and will win the metagame regardless the outcome of any one battle (he could lose them all, it simply does not mater, it's the pacing that matters in the end).

I don't know the solution to this problem. But diagnosing it correctly seems to be a first step.
 
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