Trump Retribution Phase | COMEY INDICTED

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🎁 —> The Comey Indictment Is Not Just Payback

“… In real life, there is no known evidence that any organization funded Kirk’s assassin. But there aredonors to left-wing causes that Trump wants to defund. In the White House today, the president signed an order to investigate those donors. He cited the liberal donors Reid Hoffman and George Soros as potential targets. In April, Trump orderedan investigation of ActBlue, the Democratic fundraising platform.

Trump faces a very immediate problem. He and his family have already amassed an enormous fortune in the first nine months of his second term, in great part from gifts and deals with foreign powers. That behavior is likely to be investigated if Trump’s party loses control of either house of Congress in November 2026.

… If honest congressional elections were held today, the Republicans’ two-seat margin in the House of Representatives would vanish. The protective screens for Trump’s self-enrichment would vanish with it….”
 
nycfan said:


🎁 —> The Comey Indictment Is Not Just Payback

“… In real life, there is no known evidence that any organization funded Kirk’s assassin. But there aredonors to left-wing causes that Trump wants to defund. In the White House today, the president signed an order to investigate those donors. He cited the liberal donors Reid Hoffman and George Soros as potential targets. In April, Trump orderedan investigation of ActBlue, the Democratic fundraising platform.

Trump faces a very immediate problem. He and his family have already amassed an enormous fortune in the first nine months of his second term, in great part from gifts and deals with foreign powers. That behavior is likely to be investigated if Trump’s party loses control of either house of Congress in November 2026.

… If honest congressional elections were held today, the Republicans’ two-seat margin in the House of Representatives would vanish. The protective screens for Trump’s self-enrichment would vanish with it….”
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“… But Trump is also a gifted survivor, with a keen instinct for the weaknesses of individuals and nations. The American justice system is only as good as the people who staff it.

Led by Kash Patel and Pam Bondi, the system can be an abundant resource for a president who wants to use the law to frighten opponents away from the political process.

Troops in the streets of Washington, D.C., have deterred residents from going to bars and restaurants in 2025. Those troops could be used to dissuade residents of blue cities in red states from standing in voting lines in 2026.

Selective prosecution can be used to cut the flow of money to Democratic candidates….”
 
nycfan said:
“… But Trump is also a gifted survivor, with a keen instinct for the weaknesses of individuals and nations. The American justice system is only as good as the people who staff it.

Led by Kash Patel and Pam Bondi, the system can be an abundant resource for a president who wants to use the law to frighten opponents away from the political process.

Troops in the streets of Washington, D.C., have deterred residents from going to bars and restaurants in 2025. Those troops could be used to dissuade residents of blue cities in red states from standing in voting lines in 2026.

Selective prosecution can be used to cut the flow of money to Democratic candidates….”
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“… James Comey’s rights and liberties are not the only ones at risk today. So is your own right to participate in free and fair elections in order to render a verdict on Trump’s invasion of those rights and liberties.

Trump understands the stakes—and has been astoundingly transparent about his intentions. Will you listen and understand as clearly as he speaks and threatens?“
 


Wait, Comey walks through the woods and writes poetry? Pinko weirdo!!!

When Republicans tell you to relax and go outside and touch grass, they mean an exclusive golf club, not weirdo walks in random woods.

Wake Up GIF
 
after watching a clip of Comey's response last night, he seemed to be welcoming a trial so I wonder if his lawyers are going to try to get the case dismissed or let it go to trial.

I'm guessing going to trial would mean getting a lot of discovery info ? and that discovery info could be used for Comey to build a case against Trump and the DOJ for instigating and pursuing an unlawful criminal investigation ?

I'm not a lawyer so I welcome our board legal beagles to weigh in.
 
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“… “I hear names of some pretty rich people that are radical left people,” Trump said, specifically naming George Soros and Reid Hoffman, neither of whom responded to questions about the comments.

“They’re bad, and we’re going to find out if they are funding these things,” he added. “You’re going to have some problems because they’re agitators, and they’re anarchists.”

… He [Trump] and top administration officials alleged a sinister conspiracy of wealthy elites is funding a vast network of domestic terrorists wreaking havoc across the country.

“These are not lone, isolated events. This is part of an organized campaign of radical left terrorism. It is structured, it is sophisticated, it is well funded, it is well planned,” Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller said.…”
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Yeah man there are definitely a lot of billionaire anarchists out there
 
korgguy1971 said:
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I'm curious why we haven't (yet) heard from our resident unabashed Trump-supporting attorney expressing concerns about "lawfare." Guessing because in this case, it's accountability. Right?
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Our board MAGAs have gone silent on this one which is pretty much par for the course when Trump takes another step forward to autocracy.
 
korgguy1971 said:
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I'm curious why we haven't (yet) heard from our resident unabashed Trump-supporting attorney expressing concerns about "lawfare." Guessing because in this case, it's accountability. Right?
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I believe the party line is "You guys started it" (implicitly admitting that it's wrong) while ignoring that Trump's current targets (Comey, Bolton) are not even Democrats.
 
If this does ever get to trial, Trump's posturing will provide a script for the defense to show that this is all about political persecution. Since the allegations are about lying to Congress, all of the underlying facts from the Russian interference investigation come into play. While a clear motive to interfere on behalf of Trump was not found, interference was. Even if the motive was only to undermine the election process and the integrity of elections, the Trump family's business (financing failing businesses with Russian money) and political maneuvers (Don Jr.'s efforts at seeking to throw dirt at Biden) become relevant to the defense's theory of the case.
 
korgguy1971 said:
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I'm curious why we haven't (yet) heard from our resident unabashed Trump-supporting attorney expressing concerns about "lawfare." Guessing because in this case, it's accountability. Right?
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The poster you reference is perfectly happy for Trump to do this sort of retribution "lawfare" and will be cheering him on every step of the way
 
mynameisbond said:
If this does ever get to trial, Trump's posturing will provide a script for the defense to show that this is all about political persecution. Since the allegations are about lying to Congress, all of the underlying facts from the Russian interference investigation come into play. While a clear motive to interfere on behalf of Trump was not found, interference was. Even if the motive was only to undermine the election process and the integrity of elections, the Trump family's business (financing failing businesses with Russian money) and political maneuvers (Don Jr.'s efforts at seeking to throw dirt at Biden) become relevant to the defense's theory of the case.
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The motive wasn't what was missing - what was missing, in the mind of Mueller, was clear evidence that the Trump campaign was intentionally cooperating with the Russian election-influencing efforts 9as opposed to simply being unwitting dupes in the efforts of the Russians). Basically it was clear they were either traitors or idiots, but it wasn't clear which one.
 
rodoheel said:
The poster you reference is perfectly happy for Trump to do this sort of retribution "lawfare" and will be cheering him on every step of the way
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And of course recoils at the idea that there should be consequences for him or his people.

Which is why there needs to be consequences. Severe ones. Even if Trump does recede from the scene, MAGA isn't going anywhere. Ram isn't ever going to be more informed, less racist, or less bigoted. The only way to get the Ramrousers of the world to favor the rule of law is to show them what happens when they don't respect it.

The problem is that conservatives know they can get away with it. Part of that is the Supreme Court, but part of it is liberals who don't punish the aberrant behavior in the name of "unity." It was a huge mistake in hindsight for Obama not to prosecute Bush torturers. I understand his reasoning, and it was persuasive at the time (there was a financial crisis, after all), and we couldn't foresee the future. But we shouldn't make the mistake again.

It was a mistake for Garland not to go after Trump harder and sooner. I don't think that mistake was consequential in the sense of locking Trump up. The Supreme Court was never going to let Trump be convicted of anything. And again, I understand the reasoning. Liberals generally want government to be successful, and that's not what prosecutions do in the short term. But we should understand that our freedoms require that MAGA, like smallpox, must be eradicated.

And we need a new constitution.
 
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