Trump to take over D.C. Law Enforcement

That's wrong too, but tit for tat isn't a viable approach.

Do you support releasing convicted felons then complaining about crime?
Well there is no context there so no answer to that. I'm assuming you are talking about jan 6. As a rule I'm not much on the power of the pardon and how presidents use it. If i were potus I don't think I would be using the pardon power very liberally.
 
I lived in DC for a couple of years in the early aughts. I'm sure the crime rate was much higher back then than it is now. And I lived in SE DC (although admittedly barely) which is typically the highest crime quadrant in the city. I walked and rode my bike everywhere, never felt worried or threatened. DC is a great city, lots of money, lots of educated people, great open spaces, great architecture, tons of a great variety of cultural activities available. Anybody who thinks DC is a dangerous, crime-ridden shithole either has never been there, is an idiot or is a complete pussy. Or all three. Same with San Francisco, on all counts...
 
She knows what it means, dumbass. I get it -- you don't think highly of black people.

But I could very well have said those exact words. "What do you mean, chain of command" is a way of saying, "there is no chain of command, are you fucking kidding me". It's a more polite way of saying that. If I didn't say exactly what she said, I might have responded more like, "what are you talking about, a chain of command in this pigshit seat-of-the-pants, racist administration where one is more evil than the next? They don't know how to tie their goddamn shoes, let alone run a police department."

So I think you should apologize for that load of racist drivel.
She was a DEI hire…She is not qualified for that job…
 
Why don't we ask DC residents whether the City has a crime problem?

A Washington Post poll found that 91% of the residents felt the crime problem was very serious (50%) or moderately serious (41%).
 
Lol. Who controlled the IRS in 2017? You’re such a mark.
Lol. Who controlled the IRS in 2017? You’re such a mark.
Why does that matter? The actions driving the lawsuits occurred before that. Of course you know that. Your life seems driven by semantics. I find that to generally be a weakness and less than intellectually honest. Are all lawyers that way? You know many more of them than i do.
 
Why does that matter? The actions driving the lawsuits occurred before that. Of course you know that. Your life seems driven by semantics. I find that to generally be a weakness and less than intellectually honest. Are all lawyers that way? You know many more of them than i do.
Right. Here's the conversation in the Oval Office in November 2017.

Trump: I hear conservative groups were disproportionately targeted by the IRS under Obama.

The smart people in the room: Uh, no, there's no evidence that happened. All studies show political affiliation had no impact on tax enforcement actions.

Trump: Hey, Kautter. I just appointed you to this role. Apologize on behalf of the conservative groups that have been complaining to me.

Brand New IRS Commissioner David Kautter: Uh, sure thing, boss. You got it.

Callatoroy: SEE!!!!! THE IRS WAS TARGETING CONSERVATIVE GROUPS!!!!
 
Why don't we ask DC residents whether the City has a crime problem?

A Washington Post poll found that 91% of the residents felt the crime problem was very serious (50%) or moderately serious (41%).
So in your eyes that warrants a federal takeover dog and pony show?
 
This thread is the perfect encapsulation of what has disheartened me so much, ever since I left the Republican Party, about what conservatism has become to the vast majority of Republicans.

As someone who is *actually* conservative on what I think the scope and role of the federal government should be, it has been so dismaying for me seeing so many Republicans giddy about the sight of federal troops marching in American city streets and being used to harass and detain American citizens. I don’t care who you vote for, that’s something on which we should all agree- federal troops have no business policing the streets of American cities. None whatsoever. And certainly not at the behest of a singular politician to do his political bidding.

I am certain there are parts of Washington DC – just as there are parts of any city – where there is a significant safety issue because of crime. I am also certain that the parts of Washington DC that are being patrolled by federal troops are not the ones where there is a significant safety issue- unless you consider vendors selling $5 Dasani’s on the National Mall to be a safety issue. The way to combat crime is to give people an alternative to crime. Give them an alternative to poverty. Provide them with educational opportunities. Provide them with nutritious food. Provide them with the ability and resources to actually pull themselves up by their bootstraps and get themselves out of bad situations. The way to combat crime is not to do political kabuki theater by having federal troops marching down Constitution Ave and detaining people at traffic stops. How is that addressing crime in any meaningful way?

Are Republicans okay with the fact that the precedent has now been set such that the next time a Democratic president holds the Oval Office, he or she can send federal troops into the suburbs of Dallas and Atlanta and Birmingham and St. Louis and Jackson and and so on, whenever they want, to detain for no reason at all white overweight dingleberries with MAGA stickers on their pickup trucks?
 
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What it comes down to is this. Yes. DC, like many cities, and many other places, has too much crime. It’s better than it was, but it’s still too much.

But this? This isn’t the solution. And the potential for this to be used as a weapon against dissent, if not by Trump, then by a future political leader. Potentially of either party. And none of us want that. There are lines that cannot be crossed. Because, unless we turn back, it’s just a ticking clock for America, and maybe the world. We have too much power to have in one man’s hands.

Because that is what scares me so much about Musk. What Trump appears to want, and what he has, is a frightening combination. And if they are still working together closely behind the scenes, then, well, shit.
 
This goes way past the “which party deals with crime better,” conversation. We’re talking about sacred tenants of the philosophy, and the writings, of this country’s founders. This is not what they imagined.
 
Completely agree. My thing is that I am not reflexively opposed to everything that Donald Trump does because I don’t like Donald Trump or because I don’t like Republicans. It’s not that at all. I am reflexively opposed to everything that Donald Trump does because I would be reflexively opposed to anyone of any party concentrating so much power into the executive branch. We are setting a very, very dangerous precedent- and if Republicans think that only Republicans are going to occupy the White House for the rest of history, or that only Republicans would use such concentrated executive power for nefarious ends, they clearly have not paid too much attention in history classes. My reason for reflexively opposing everything that Trump does is because I want the United States to be better than all of the other countries we’ve read about throughout history that succumbed to a tyrannical executive.
 
“We’re going to control your city, states and municipalities rights be damned!!!”

These are not liberal ideas. They are not conservatives ideals either. This is something dark, and different. Play it out in your minds, where does this end?

Because if you think that is better than the alternative, make a case for where you see the world going if it gets more liberal.

Because again, this move of power by Trump opens up the possibility that it could be used by a liberal At some point in the future.

Checks and balances, once gone, are hard to replace.
 
Who else is going to help them? Certainly not their elected officials for the last 50 years. Also a smart political move by trump to continue to grow support for republicans within the black community.
Because if there's one thing that African Americans have always appreciated, it's heavy handed police tactics in their communities.
 
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