TangledUpInBlue06
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Trump's placating liberals?Instead of being in a lather you guys would be foaming at the mouth if the national guard were carrying guns and conducting patrols in brentwood.
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Trump's placating liberals?Instead of being in a lather you guys would be foaming at the mouth if the national guard were carrying guns and conducting patrols in brentwood.
I really don't understand why you're projecting this stuff onto us. First of all, I have a problem, period, with American military personnel being deployed on American streets harassing American citizens. Full stop. At one point in time before you surrendered all of your conservative principles, you'd have agreed with that. Doesn't matter who the president is, doesn't matter who the party in power is- American military personnel do not belong on American city streets harassing and detaining American citizens. I'm legitimately saddened that you find that to be disagreeable. I legit thought that was like Day One of Conservative 101 stuff: "Thou shalt not endorse federal government overreach, especially that which involves the American military."Instead of being in a lather you guys would be foaming at the mouth if the national guard were carrying guns and conducting patrols in brentwood.
Given that the gop is more popular than the dim party what are you guys jerking off to? gay porn? bestiality porn?The entire GOP is just jerking off to an endless stream of AI midget porn. That’s the level at which they’re all operating these days.
Many in that generation did. Still sounds like my kind of woman.She smoked like a chimney.
You spelled "no credible evidence of law enforcement leadership fudging data" wrong as well. And it's strange how White House Press Secretary Katherine Leavitt said just this morning on Fox & Friends that the data was accurate. Trumpers can't keep their story straight, it would seem.You spelled “law enforcement leadership has been fudging data” wrong.
You know homelessness isn't typically that people are just lazy. Yes there's a percentage that are mentally challenged, and a percentage that are addicted and need help, but the fastest growing group is a group that I believe will surprise most.Looking at a live feed of Union Station. Looking good! No homeless tents, no beggars or trash.
Jesus fucking Christ…Some weird shit in your head equates gay porn and “bestiality” porn and then spews it out as some sort of insult. You really don’t understand how fucked up some of the things you’re saying here are, huh?Given that the gop is more popular than the dim party what are you guys jerking off to? gay porn? bestiality porn?
Your characterization that they are harassing American citizens contradicts your claim that they are just taking selfies with tourists.I really don't understand why you're projecting this stuff onto us. First of all, I have a problem, period, with American military personnel being deployed on American streets harassing American citizens. Full stop. At one point in time before you surrendered all of your conservative principles, you'd have agreed with that. Doesn't matter who the president is, doesn't matter who the party in power is- American military personnel do not belong on American city streets harassing and detaining American citizens. I'm legitimately saddened that you find that to be disagreeable. I legit thought that was like Day One of Conservative 101 stuff: "Thou shalt not endorse federal government overreach, especially that which involves the American military."
Second of all, are you seriously implying that if the roles were reversed and a Democratic president ordered American military personnel into the trailer parks and hollers of bumfuck America to harass rural conservatives, you'd just happily go along with that kind of federal overreach? No? Well then why the hypocrisy in this case?
Third of all, the fact that they AREN'T going into Brentwood or Anacostia period, and are instead talking selfies with tourists on the National Mall....does that not send up huge red flags to you? You know, if the whole point of this charade is to REDUCE CRIME, why would they not be going into the areas where the ACTUAL VIOLENT CRIMING IS HAPPENING? Is it because, perhaps, it's all theater?
evidence?You spelled “law enforcement leadership has been fudging data” wrong.
Consider the source.Can you fudge violent crime data? Seems pretty cut and dry, no?
Are you talking on a per capita basis or raw numbers?The study mentions "demographics" but doesn't factor race per se into the equation. Blacks commit more murders than latinos who commit more murders than whites. I've never seen a study that specifically mentioned asians but I'd guess that's less than whites. If that is true, I would expect states and cities with the highest concentrations of blacks to have a higher murder rate than a city with a less populous black community. Its also common sense that less accountability equals more crime than higher levels of accountability. Again, not mentioned in that article.
You really have to have that explained to you. A very small percentage of the overall population is gay. Thus, gay porn isn't likely to be popular to people that aren't gay. Even fewer people would be into bestiality so that wouldn't be popular either. You didn't seem to have any issues with midget porn though so I guess you are cool with that or are you in the midst of typing your rant to lawtig about his disparaging midgets. You are the classic hypocritical pos liberal. Loves throwing shit one way but cries like a bitch dog when its thrown back at you. Grow up and quit going through life looking for every opportunity to be offended.Jesus fucking Christ…Some weird shit in your head equates gay porn and “bestiality” porn and then spews it out as some sort of insult. You really don’t understand how fucked up some of the things you’re saying here are, huh?
Whatever it is that you’re struggling with I hope you find some peace. Until then, get fucked. Your toxicity does not belong here. 4chan or stormfront would be more your speed.
There are videos on this very thread of them doing both, actually: detaining delivery drivers and UberEats drivers making deliveries, detaining a woman from her vehicle at a checkpoint on 14th Street, and also just posted up taking selfies in front of Union Station. It's not an either/or. They're doing both. They're doing more of the latter, sure, but doing ANY of the former, to me, is a bridge too far. I am bewildered that anyone with any conservative bonafides at all would think that federalizing an American city using military personnel isn't overreach.Your characterization that they are harassing American citizens contradicts your claim that they are just taking selfies with tourists.
I'm not being hypocritical because I'm not seeing the harassment you keep touting.
They aren't going into those areas because they aren't trained to be in those areas, aren't carrying guns, and instead are designed to be a deterrent, hold potential criminals, and perform menial jobs to free up other resources to focus on reducing crime. We aren't talking about Seal Team 6 here but it seems like that is your characterization of them. The National Guard goes into areas hit by natural disasters actually carrying guns to prevent looting and that seems acceptable to you. I'm sorry but you seem to be mischaracterizing the use of the National Guard and I don't grasp that based on what i have seen.
Fuck…I hate agreeing with Joe Walsh. But he’s spot on.![]()
From former MAGA/Tea Party member Joe Walsh:
"I’m just so damn pissed off at all the consultants and the Democratic politicians and the Democratic pollsters and all the Democratic talkers and thinkers in the media saying:
All of these Democratic “smart people” are advising Democratic politicians not to fight Trump on crime, to which I say: BULLSHIT. Democrats, fight. Fight Trump on crime like you're learning how to fight him on immigration. Remember? That was another big issue that you weren’t supposed to touch because you didn’t poll real well on the issue of immigration. That was a winning issue for Trump.
Well, guess what? You began to push back on immigration. You began to push back on Trump disappearing people off of our streets…no due process…going into Home Depot parking lots, 7-Eleven parking lots.
And look here: Trump’s numbers on immigration are tanking. You know why, Democrats? Because you finally fucking took that issue on. Do the same thing here with this issue of crime, and Trump putting troops on the streets of D.C. Fight him on this issue!
Fight him on this issue—don’t back down. Don’t listen to the pollsters and the consultants. Most Americans do not want America’s military on the streets. Crime is bad in most American cities.
By the way, Washington, D.C., is the 21st most-violent city in America. Fight back against him with data and crime statistics. Fight back with him. We don’t want the military on our streets. That’s not what we do in America.
My God, Democrats. Fight! Don’t listen to the pollsters and the consultants and back down on another issue where the vast majority of Americans are with you, if you would just stand up and fight. Man, that’s what they wanted you to do with the transgender issue in the 2024 campaign, but you stayed silent.
Immigration and crime: you—we, excuse me—Democrats are a lot closer to where most Americans are than Trump and MAGA is. So fuck the consultants. Fight."
"There are no reports of the National Guard harassing people in DC. While the National Guard has been deployed to Washington, D.C. to support law enforcement, their role is primarily logistical and administrative, not to engage in direct law enforcement actions like arrests or harassment, according to CNN. They are assisting with tasks like transportation, communication, and maintaining a visible presence, according to the U.S. Department of Defense.There are videos on this very thread of them doing both, actually: detaining delivery drivers and UberEats drivers making deliveries, detaining a woman from her vehicle at a checkpoint on 14th Street, and also just posted up taking selfies in front of Union Station. It's not an either/or. They're doing both. They're doing more of the latter, sure, but doing ANY of the former, to me, is a bridge too far. I am bewildered that anyone with any conservative bonafides at all would think that federalizing an American city using military personnel isn't overreach.
Your second paragraph yields valid points, but I'm confused as to what the whole purpose of this entire operation is, if it's not to actually reduce crime? There's no crime reduction happening by posting up on the National Mall. Nobody in Brentwood is criming any less because the National Guard is hanging out outside of the National Archives. So if the point is to reduce crime, then why not go where the crime is happening? And if the point is to perform menial jobs to free up other resources to focus on reducing crime, who is actually doing the crime reduction part of the equation?
I truly desire to see the reduction or elimination of violent crime as much as anyone. I just truly do not support the utilization of federal military personnel to do so. I think there are plenty of better ways to do it, but the problem is those don't make for good sound bytes and clips on Fox and social media.
What you got against gay porn? The Republican that ran for governor liked some trans porn, didn't he?Given that the gop is more popular than the dim party what are you guys jerking off to? gay porn? bestiality porn?
Appreciate you sharing that. That’s good to have the context. Then who is detaining delivery drivers? I guess it’s ICE maybe? That’s still a distinction without a difference to me. Federal personnel are patrolling the streets of an American city apprehending American citizens for…what purpose? THAT’s the problem I have and what I don’t understand. I promise I’m not trying to be dense or combative- I’m just genuinely trying to understand why anyone of any political persuasion is cool with this."There are no reports of the National Guard harassing people in DC. While the National Guard has been deployed to Washington, D.C. to support law enforcement, their role is primarily logistical and administrative, not to engage in direct law enforcement actions like arrests or harassment, according to CNN. They are assisting with tasks like transportation, communication, and maintaining a visible presence, according to the U.S. Department of Defense.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
- Support Role:
The National Guard's mission is to support local and federal law enforcement agencies in DC.
- Limited Direct Action:
National Guard members are not authorized to make arrests or detain individuals, according to CNN.
- Logistical and Administrative Support:
Their duties include providing logistical support, transportation, and administrative assistance to law enforcement, according to the U.S. Department of Defense.
- Visible Presence:
They are also providing a visible presence in the city, including areas like the National Mall and near monuments, according to ABC News.
- No Weapons, as of Now:
The National Guard troops have not been authorized to carry weapons, although this could change based on evolving orders.
- D.C. Mayor's Statement:
D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser has stated that the National Guard will be deployed on federal property, not to make arrests, according to NBC News."