Turning Points

lawtig02

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No, this thread is not about Charlie Kirk, even if he sadly co-opted the term. I just thought it might be interesting to have a thread dedicated to the moments in the last 45 years or so that marked real turning points in the evolution of the GOP from the party of "individual rights" to the party of unfettered executive power, and the evolution of our nation from a flawed liberal democracy to a thriving kleptocratic autocracy. Obama and Covid are the two easiest answers, but there are so many other transitional moments, and I'm curious which ones stand out to you.

I'll start with this one --

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I was young at the time but growing up in a Rush-listening household and I still remember the conservative fury over the "borking" of this man. I think it changed Republicans' views on the Supreme Court permanently, especially when Kennedy proved to be such a disappointment to movement conservatives. It's also interesting to remember that one of the main criticisms of Bork was his support for what we now call the unified executive theory. The NYT memorably called him an "advocate of disproportionate powers for the executive branch of Government, almost executive supremacy." Thirty-eight years later, we find ourselves in a nation in which the Supreme Court has abdicated its power in deference to "executive supremacy," and the obsolete structure of the court, combined with McConnell's mendacity, essentially guarantees minority conservative domination of the court for decades to come.

Bork was also one of the first conservative prophets of the anti-intellectualism that has now dumbed down our politics to the point it's indistinguishable from Idiocracy. In his book Slouching Towards Gomorrah, which dittoheads viewed as something akin to II Jeremiah, he wrote: “Surely a number of such people want to do the right thing, are well-intentioned, but just as surely some do not act from creditable intentions. Some of our elites . . . professors, journalists, makers of motion pictures and television entertainment, et al. . . . delight in nihilism and destruction as much as do the random killers in our cities. Their weapons are just different.” And thus the early days of the culture wars were distilled into three concise sentences.

What other turning points do you recall? The more obscure the better.
 
I was only 15, but I think the disputed election of 2000. And I think whoever was on the side that was just 537 votes short in Florida would have almost certainly done the same thing as Gore. I wonder if that election is a clear cut victory for either side, are we here now? It seemed Gore created some permissions to question, that Trump took the an entirely and inappropriate level in 2020. To me, disputed election of 2000 has proved to exacerbate the division.
 
You need to go back for more than 40 years to get to where it started. McCarthyism HUAC, the John Birch Society, the Hollywood blacklist and the founding of Reason Magazine and their early assault on the media started 80 years ago and set the table for what has happened since.
I know, but I was trying to cut it off somewhere within the personal frame of reference of most posters here. We could trace it back to 1619 if we really wanted to.
 
I know, but I was trying to cut it off somewhere within the personal frame of reference of most posters here. We could trace it back to 1619 if we really wanted to.
I get that but all but the founding of Reason happened in my lifetime and a fair number of other posters. I sometimes fear some perspective is lost when the amount of time this has gone on is neglected and , conversely, how often we've had to face these kinds of challenge. Too many progressive politicians got entirely too damned complacent in the 60s-90s. I don't care if this is an excessive reminder.
 
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There are a number of them. And I'm confident most will get detailed on this thread, But in my mind there is on big one that best represents the first step down the road we are on today.

In the run up to the 1980 presidential election it was George Bush Sr. running vs. Ronald Reagan for the Republican nomination that year. During his campaign, Reagan floated the idea "hey let's just give tax cuts to millionaires (we didn't have Billionaires at the time, that was a direct outcome of the story I'm telling) and pesto-chango the middle class will thrive as a result". That was patently absurd on the face of it, and George Bush, who, at the time was an actual little "c" conservative, rightly called him out on it, calling his plan "voodoo economics". Anyone with a true conservative bone in their bodies knew precisely that Reagan's idea full of shit and solely designed to trick dumb people into letting the rich get richer off the back of the middle class. GEORGE BUSH SR. KNEW THIS, HE SAID AS MUCH. Most other prominent conservatives at the time agreed with Bush Sr.!

Well, long story short, Reagan, due to his nascent populism (not, notably due to his bullshit economic platform), wins the Republican nomination. The precise turning point was when George Bush Sr. let his personal ambition override his moral compass and in order to secure the VP slot, swallowed his dignity and duty to country and started parroting the voodoo economics bullshit. At one point he even went so far as to lie to reporters that he had never made the Voodoo Economics remark (he did, it's on tape).

Three extremely consequential things came of George Bush's moral failure. #1) Tax cuts for the rich became permanently enshrined as Republican orthodoxy. #2) Swallowing and parroting the "Big Lie" for the sake of achieving political power became Republican orthodoxy #3) And perhaps most consequentially, big "C" Conservatives were finally and permanently liberated from the need to be small "c" conservatives.

From there is a straight bright line to the Republican party becoming the party of channeling the tax burden onto the middle class and off of millionaires (and later, billionaires), becoming the party of parroting bald face lies as a party loyalty test as well as a tribal identifier, and ultimately, in it's end stage form, fascism.

EDIT TO ADD: The moral of this story is that it is never the evil doer that gives away the game. There have been evil doers in every age throughout history, and there always will be. They will constantly assail us. Our one true weakness, is the failure of the supposedly principled leaders we depend on... their failure to make that principled stand when it would cost them personally.

It's not the Rush's, the Miller's, or the Trumps. It's the McConnels, the Tillis', the Collin's, the Justice Robert's, the George Bush Sr.'s, etc. etc. ad nauseam, that have failed us.
 
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Past 45 years, in addition to events mentioned above:
  • 1980 election of Ronald Reagan
  • Iran-Contra
  • Rise of Rush Limbaugh
  • Appointment of Clarence Thomas to SCOTUS
  • 1994 midterm elections and ensuing “contract with America”
  • FOX News
  • Monica Lewinsky scandal and Clinton impeachment
  • Appointment of John Roberts to SCOTUS
  • Appointment of Sam Alito to SCOTUS
  • Citizens United v. FEC
  • 2010 elections
  • 2014 midterm elections resulting in Republicans taking control of Senate
  • McConnell’s/GOP’s handling of Merrick Garland
  • 2016 Election of Donald Trump
  • Appointment of Neil Gorsuch to SCOTUS
  • Appointment of Brett Kavanaugh to SCOTUS
  • Death of RBG and ensuing appointment of Amy Coney Barrett to SCOTUS
  • 2020 election of Joe Biden (in that he was at a very advanced aged, lacked charisma, and struggled to effectively communicate, setting up issues for the following presidential election)
  • Inflation (this could also fall under Covid, which was was mentioned by the OP)
  • Biden’s 2024 debate performance
  • Trump v. United States immunity case
Too many to name in the last year.
 
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And how it led to an ends justifies the means erosion of norms and liberties. My father woke up September 12, 2001 suddenly a hard core Republican.
That is a huge one.

On that day I was sicked by two horrors. One was the tragedy I'd just witnessed on live television. The second was the inescapable conviction that our inevitable overreaction would be the unraveling of our country.

I wan't wrong.
 
I was only 15, but I think the disputed election of 2000. And I think whoever was on the side that was just 537 votes short in Florida would have almost certainly done the same thing as Gore. I wonder if that election is a clear cut victory for either side, are we here now? It seemed Gore created some permissions to question, that Trump took the an entirely and inappropriate level in 2020. To me, disputed election of 2000 has proved to exacerbate the division.
2000 election was a major sliding door moment even beyond the election dispute stuff.
 
I think Obama being elected twice is the whole reason a lot of people went full blown MAGA in support of Trump. A lot of people couldn't handle a man of color being President. And then they saw gays being able to get married, and the start of DEI initiatives and trans people actually being treated as humans. The racists and bigots got so scared that they were going to lose their privilege and power of just being a straight white Christian that they went to the extreme of supporting someone like Trump to get that power and privilege back, even people who didn't realize they were racists and bigots deep down.
 
I'll add another one that I've mentioned here before -- Katrina. I firmly believe Republicans viewed that disaster as the result of social dysfunction and political corruption in a blue city full of black Americans, and they could not understand why most people blamed Bush and his administration. The takeaway was that if Pubs will be blamed and called racists for a problem of the Dems' own making, there's no point trying to cooperate with the Dems on anything. This scorched earth mindset came to full bloom with the emergence of the Tea Party two years later.
 
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