U.S. Budget Bills | DHS funding fight

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“There’s some things in there that need to be funded.”

He added: “We’re going to hold out until we have an agreement which is why we want to fund the rest. Now the Republicans can oppose it and say you don’t get this, but that’s not a very good political position for them to be in.”
 
nycfan said:


“There’s some things in there that need to be funded.”

He added: “We’re going to hold out until we have an agreement which is why we want to fund the rest. Now the Republicans can oppose it and say you don’t get this, but that’s not a very good political position for them to be in.”
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I agree on a philosophical level that this is the way to go.

The problem is that the Trump administration will simply take other DHS funding and use it to fund ICE and force Congress to do something about it, which everyone knows they won't do.

But that's not to say it's not worth doing on a symbolic level. But I wouldn't expect it to functionally have very much effect on ICE in any real terms.
 
SnoopRob said:
The problem is that the Trump administration will simply take other DHS funding and use it to fund ICE and force Congress to do something about it, which everyone knows they won't do.
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You think Trump would limit his search for funds to DHS? He has no problem moving pockets of money from anywhere in violation of the Appropriations Clause. He already took defense funds to build a wall (well, a few feet of wall).
 
Calheel said:
You think Trump would limit his search for funds to DHS? He has no problem moving pockets of money from anywhere in violation of the Appropriations Clause. He already took defense funds to build a wall (well, a few feet of wall).
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Exactly. He also now has access to an oil slush fund and whatever money he has collected for his board of peace.
 
Calheel said:
You think Trump would limit his search for funds to DHS? He has no problem moving pockets of money from anywhere in violation of the Appropriations Clause. He already took defense funds to build a wall (well, a few feet of wall).
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You're entirely correct, which is why I wouldn't expect this to have any real impact on ICE.

But it could be important on a symbolic level.
 
superrific said:
Exactly. He also now has access to an oil slush fund and whatever money he has collected for his board of peace.
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I would guarantee he has more personal plans with that money, I doubt he'd "waste" it on something the US government does.
 
SnoopRob said:
I agree on a philosophical level that this is the way to go.

The problem is that the Trump administration will simply take other DHS funding and use it to fund ICE and force Congress to do something about it, which everyone knows they won't do.

But that's not to say it's not worth doing on a symbolic level. But I wouldn't expect it to functionally have very much effect on ICE in any real terms.
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ICE got a crazy windfall of funding in OBBB. They won’t be impacted by any cut to DHS funding or a partial shutdown of DHS funding at all.
 
nycfan said:
ICE got a crazy windfall of funding in OBBB. They won’t be impacted by any cut to DHS funding or a partial shutdown of DHS funding at all.
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They would have a slight impact, but not significant. This is about messaging, though, not actual operations.

www.cbsnews.com

ICE and CBP would keep operating during a shutdown, despite DHS funding fight

A partial government shutdown would likely have little impact on immigration enforcement operations, since ICE and CBP got billions in last year's One Big Beautiful Bill Act.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com
 
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