U.S. Budget Negotiations

[4thgenheel]

all they do is lie, lmao.

they had this young, maga dipshit congressman from texas named brandon gill on CNN last night. kaitlan collins repeatedly called out and eviscerated his weak sauce lies and he just kept parroting the same nonsense. it was comical.

 

[nycfan]

“… The final bill must comply with the Senate’s Byrd Rule, named for the late West Virginia Democratic Sen. Robert Byrd, which prevents lawmakers from using the special budget reconciliation process to advance unrelated policies. Reconciliation allows Republicans to pass President Trump’s “big, beautiful” bill with just 51 votes—rather than the 60 usually required in the Senate—but only if their provisions all have a meaningful fiscal impact that aren’t “merely incidental.”

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The Senate process is designed to scrub the GOP bill of items seen as having little impact on fiscal matters. In this “Byrd bath,” any senator can raise a point of order to challenge a provision in the bill. The nonpartisan Senate parliamentarian will then make the final call, which Republicans are expected to abide by—though in today’s political environment, nothing is certain.

“During reconciliation, the minority party wants to cause as much trouble for the majority party, whenever and wherever possible,” said Zach Moller, director of the economic program at center-left think tank Third Way. “That is the price of reconciliation.”…”

 

[nycfan]

 

[nycfan]

 

[superrific]

I have a tip on some Medicaid fraud. Go get 'em Mike and Russ

U.S. Senator Rick Scott

www.rickscott.senate.gov

"Columbia later merged with another corporation to form Columbia/HCA, which eventually became the nation's largest for-profit health care company. Scott was pressured to resign as chief executive of Columbia/HCA in 1997. During his tenure as chief executive, the company defrauded Medicare, Medicaid, and other federal programs. The U.S. Department of Justice won 14 felony convictions against the company, which was fined $1.7 billion in what was at the time the largest healthcare fraud settlement in U.S. history" (from wiki)

 

[nycfan]

 

[superrific]

For the record, the CBO has an extensive track record of overestimating economic growth.

 

[HintonJamesHeel]

Has anyone in office even tried to understand how the federal government spent $4.4t in 2019 and now spends $6.8t?

 

[nycfan]

Has anyone in office even tried to understand how the federal government spent $4.4t in 2019 and now spends $6.8t?

Increase in interest cost and inflation account for a sizable chunk but certainly not all of it.

Interest Costs Have Nearly Tripled Since 2020 | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget

2024-11-20-The recent release of the final Monthly Treasury Statement from the Treasury Department shows that net interes

www.crfb.org

 

[nycfan]

Medicaid spending has also increased …



It was up to about $890 Billion in 2023, though the Federal government is only responsible for about 69% of total Medicaid spending (states cover the rest).

 

[HintonJamesHeel]

Interest is a big chunk for sure based on that but even half of the increase.

 

[HintonJamesHeel]

Medicaid spending has also increased …



It was up to about $890 Billion in 2023, though the Federal government is only responsible for about 69% of total Medicaid spending (states cover the rest).

This chart would make any reasonable person understand we have to have changes. This level of increase isn’t sustainable.

 

[nycfan]

Interest is a big chunk for sure based on that but even half of the increase.

yeah, that’s why I also referenced inflation (a significant bump in Social Security payments a statutory increases for inflation, for example). Mandatory spending (interest, social security, Medicare, Medicaid a few others) account for most of the spending and most of the increases.

 

[nycfan]

This chart would make any reasonable person understand we have to have changes. This level of increase isn’t sustainable.

Well, it is a matter of priorities as well. The increases need to be controlled but the tax cuts are starving the government of funds even as we keep spending and cost of debt has soared. We need to change both sides of the ledger, IMO. Instead the GOP is rushing headlong into adding another 3-4 Trillion to the debt.

 

[HintonJamesHeel]

Well, it is a matter of priorities as well. The increases need to be controlled but the tax cuts are starving the government of funds even as we keep spending and cost of debt has soared. We need to change both sides of the ledger, IMO. Instead the GOP is rushing headlong into adding another 3-4 Trillion to the debt.

We need a common sense party. Most Americans understand we have to cut expenses and raise taxes.

 

[StrangePackage]

We need a common sense party. Most Americans understand we have to cut expenses and raise taxes.

That would be the Democratic party.

 

[HintonJamesHeel]

That would be the Democratic party.

Maybe so but gosh they are so bad at politics and if you can’t win or message, it’s all irrelevant.

 

[farce©]

Most Americans understand we have to cut expenses and raise taxes.

This right here is the message Democrats are so bad at communicating. They have tried to just be honest about it but most Americans don’t want to hear it. It makes me think the problem might not be Democratic messaging but a more a delusional electorate. So maybe most Americans don’t understand it.

 

[Zoo_View]

We need a common sense party. Most Americans understand we have to cut expenses and raise taxes.

Please provide evidence that most Americans support cutting spending…….not polls showing support for cutting “waste and fraud;” cuts in actual spending that substantially reduces spending in meaningful ways.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

It's like all of those Trump voters who said that they supported cutting government "waste" or "fraud", but when their jobs got cut they suddenly were up in arms in all of these FAFO articles that have been posted saying "I never thought they would cut my job or close my federal office...I thought the cuts would be more thought out and better planned and would happen to somebody other than me." No doubt very large numbers of people are for cutting vague and undefined "waste and fraud", but once the impact of actual cuts become clear - especially if it impacts them personally or a family member - then suddenly it's not fun and games anymore.