U.S. Budget - OBBB | Medicare Part D premiums set to rise

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Honestly, Vance kind of sucks at this kind of legislative arm twisting. This argument is why doing all this in one monstrous bill was dumb. Limit this to tax cuts and ICE funding and it probably sails through …
 
nycfan said:
It won’t matter once Collins flips, but maybe Collins is giving Murkowski leverage to get as much for Alaska as she can first … because fuck Maine.
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The only reason I think collins might not flip is that she's up for reelection in 2026
 
Collins is up for reelection in a race that she will probably lose but will definitely lose if she votes for this. So I suspect she badly wants not to flip.
 
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“…And once you see the growth trajectory change to an upward bias, the bill more than pays for itself We could be in surplus.”

Wow. A surplus?
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Bessent looking for that Andrew Mellon legacy . . . what a fucking putz that guy is.

It's always the same bullshit with these guys, always. On one hand, the tax cuts are merely a continuation of current policy. On the other, once they are passed and current policy is maintained, then everything is going to change HUGELY

Fox News viewers are the people whose IQs go up after lobotomies.
 
Paine said:
Is Collins not also ready to retire? She’s 72.
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I predicted a few months ago that Tillis and Collins would not be running for re-election in 2026. I'm 1 for 2 already. I still don't think Collins runs again. I do not believe that Mainers want more concern and worry; don't they want someone who will fight for them? Maine is surely devastated by the Canada feud. What is Collins going to do about that?
 
Dem leadership should be laser-focused on turning Collins and Murkowski, or at the very least, impairing their chances of re-election. Cracks are widening with Paul and Tillis holdouts, so opportunity is definitely there.

Also, it became apparent to me watching MSNBC last night, either Pulaski or O'Donnell, Medicaid cuts are going to affect us all in terms of increasing costs of care and insurance. The poor and uninsured are still going to wind in some ER and that cost will be borne by the insured, as it continues to be. Another messaging failure by Dem leadership.
 
nycfan said:


“…And once you see the growth trajectory change to an upward bias, the bill more than pays for itself We could be in surplus.”

Wow. A surplus?
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Trump promised he would eliminate the national debt (not just the deficit ) during his first term.

Could we be at a point where we will eliminate the national debt in Trump's 2nd term ? Could the tariffs combined with the Big Beautiful Bill getter done ?
 
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