U.S. Budget & OBBB | OCT 1 - Gov’t Shutdown Begins

[heelinhell]

Let’s not forget, the hypocrisy is a feature.

I remember the interview with Dick Cheney when asked about the increased deficits ...good times

 

[nycfan]

 

[superrific]

Man I hate it when I'm on the same side of an issue as Thomas Massie. Math is math, though.

 

[Callatoroy]

Thank you for bringing up that Pelosi statement.

She said we are going to have to pass the bill so YOU ( the audience she was speaking to ) can find out what's in it which will dispel the misinformation being spread by republicans about what is in the ACA.

"You've heard about the controversies within the bill, the process about the bill, one or the other. But I don't know if you have heard that it is legislation for the future, not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America, where preventive care is not something that you have to pay a deductible for or out of pocket. Prevention, prevention, prevention–it's about diet, not diabetes. It's going to be very, very exciting.

But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy."

“Gruber said that “the stupidity of the American voter” made it important for him and Democrats to hide Obamacare’s true costs from the public. “That was really, really critical for the thing to pass,” said Gruber. “But I’d rather have this law than not.” In other words, the ends—imposing Obamacare upon the public—justified the means.”

 

[nycfan]

 

[lawtig02]

In a rational, moral world, comments like this by a president would result in immediate and automatic removal from office.

 

[spcmtn]

In a rational, moral world, comments like this by a president would result in immediate and automatic removal from office.

Trump has done a lot worse than this that should get him removed.

 

[hedge]

So is he saying that the best case scenario is that the debt would only be raised by $15-17 trillion over the next 10 years?

 

[Calheel]

You know, Donald, we have Republicans here in California. In fact, we have more Republicans in California than half of the states you won, combined.

 

[lawtig02]

If Biden had ever even hinted that the federal government should not be doing anything to help Republican governors, that would have been the biggest story of his presidency.

 

[ChileG]

You know, Donald, we have Republicans here in California. In fact, we have more Republicans in California than half of the states you won, combined.

Trump is cruel and an idiot, so this is what you get.

 

[nycfan]

 

[nycfan]

 

[Duke Mu]

I'd rather have the personal exemptions back. Losing that sent our taxes soaring.

 

[Duke Mu]

$500B Medicare cuts. Deep Medicaid cuts. ACA cuts. 13M will lose insurance.

It doesn't mean that a more efficient system wasn't needed. Health Care Coverage needed to be folded into one entity. Redundancy is costly. A public option for those under 65 could compete with private insurance to drive down costs.

Mini Mike's bill is just a hatchet.



It will still barely subsidize tax breaks to billionaires.

Debtor countires are running for the hills as the dollar loses status and sound fiscal backing.

It certainly seems like...

 

[Calheel]

I'd rather have the personal exemptions back. Losing that sent our taxes soaring.

The Californians want the SALT. We have a silly passive income workaround right now for business owners. But with the high property tax and state income tax, the SALT cap hits pretty hard out here - especially given that $200k is middle class.

 

[mpaer]

The Californians want the SALT. We have a silly passive income workaround right now for business owners. But with the high property tax and state income tax, the SALT cap hits pretty hard out here - especially given that $200k is middle class.

I wonder if the Republicans from Cali will hold out-I guess not

 

[nycfan]

 

[TangledUpInBlue06]

The SALT caucus reportedly has agreed to this. Let's see how much it costs and whether there is pushback from the deficit hawks. The original proposal ($30k cap phasing out above $400k income) earned $915 billion from 2025-2034.

 

[nycfan]

But