U.S. Budget & OBBB | OCT 1 - Gov’t Shutdown Begins

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nycfan said:
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“… in an interview last weekend with Fox’s Maria Bartiromo made clear his determination to undo the Green New Deal aspects of Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act of 2022.

His dislike for both Biden’s legacy, and wind and solar energy in particular, seems almost visceral.

“We’re doing coal,” Trump declared. “I don’t want windmills destroying our place. I don’t want these solar things where they go for miles and they cover up half a mountain and they’re ugly as hell.” And, he said, “They’re made in China.”

So get ready to pay more for electricity, and to compete with big tech and artificial intelligence for the power supply. Recent growth in electricity demand from data centers has been stunning. Lawrence Berkeley National Lab data shows that in 2018 data centers used 76 terawatt hours (TWh), or 1.9% of domestic electricity; they project that will hit at least 325 TWhs (6.7% of the total) by 2028. Consultancy Rystad Energy eyes a 16% rise in overall U.S. power demand by 2035.

But without affordable renewables (or rapid breakthroughs in nuclear fusion) the electricity to feed all those AI data centers may not arrive in time. Most are integrated energy projects. Meta, for its Sucre data center in Louisiana, is partnering with Entergy to invest $3.2 billion in gas turbines to provide reliable electricity for its computers, and another $1.5 billion into wind and solar–to reduce its carbon footprint….”
 
The energy component to this bill is really baffling. It suggests no one is reading these addendums and amendments.

Meanwhile China is building 27 nuclear power plants.
 
farce© said:
What is that “subset of society?”
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The politically entrenched? She comes from a political family and IIRC, has been in politics since college. I think her husband is a political consultant or lobbyist so stepping down could impact his position as well.
 
Healing said:
Dems are generally saying the right things, but they need 2-3 unified quips to tie it together. “Build the wall”, “lock her up”, “make America great again” all carry meaning (disgusting) far beyond the slogan, and unify a collective message, while creating opportunities for symbolism.
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Dems haven’t had a good one of those since Hope & Change (and “Defund the Police” was one of the worst ones ever).
 
lawtig02 said:
This is what bothers me the most. For decades now, we've been in a recurring pattern where Republican administrations fuck up our fiscal policy by slashing taxes, starting expensive wars, and exploding the deficit. In effect, they repeatedly, without fail, upper deck our national toilet. The American people then elect a Democrat to fix the problem, but when the Democrats start cleaning out the toilet, all the American people can think is, "Why does this whole country smell like shit?" And thus the cycle repeats.
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You are far from the first person to point out the consistent course of our post-2000 political cycle, but I think this is now my favorite metaphor for the process.
 
lawtig02 said:
This is what bothers me the most. For decades now, we've been in a recurring pattern where Republican administrations fuck up our fiscal policy by slashing taxes, starting expensive wars, and exploding the deficit. In effect, they repeatedly, without fail, upper deck our national toilet. The American people then elect a Democrat to fix the problem, but when the Democrats start cleaning out the toilet, all the American people can think is, "Why does this whole country smell like shit?" And thus the cycle repeats.

The only difference now is the current Pubs aren't even trying to hide what they're doing. They're just assuming enough voters will be dumb or gullible enough to give them yet another pass. And instead of a couple of turds in the toilet tank, they're all perched up there at the same time after a long night of chicken wings and tequila. I have very little hope the American people will figure this out now when they haven't with any of the last 5+ Republican administrations, but for the love of God, can someone make this insanity stop???
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“… just assuming enough voters will be dumb or gullible…”
I think that’s been proven time and again. Like the 5+ pub admins you said. But the past 2 trump votes have removed all doubt.
But by God there’ll be no boyz in the gurlz bathroom and no Mexicans pickin our veggies!
 
CFordUNC said:
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The republicans running for McConnell’s seat have a challenging task ahead - suck up to Trump and MAGA to win the nomination and then back pedal like a mofo to win the general election at a point when all these chickens will have been home roosting for many months.
 
Healing said:
Dems are generally saying the right things, but they need 2-3 unified quips to tie it together. “Build the wall”, “lock her up”, “make America great again” all carry meaning (disgusting) far beyond the slogan, and unify a collective message, while creating opportunities for symbolism.
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That’s what AI is for. I’ll wager you could type that in - what you just said - and ChatGPT will spit something out
 
Healing said:
First round:
Respect. Protect. Rebuild.”
  • Respect. For people, rights, truth, and democracy.
  • Protect. Our freedoms, our votes, our planet.
  • Rebuild. The middle class, our communities, and trust in government.
When asked for more urgency:
  1. “Before It’s Too Late.”
    (Direct fear messaging with implicit call to act now.)
  2. “Stop the Collapse.”
    (Strong imagery of systemic failure halted by collective action.)
  3. “Fight for What’s Left.”
    (Conveys loss has already happened, and only urgent fight remains.)
  4. “Our Last Chance.”
    (Ultimate fear appeal and urgency, concise and chilling.)
When asked for more aggression:
Stop Their Takeover.”
  • Positions the opposition as an existential threat.
  • Creates a clear enemy and rallying cry.
🔥 “No Mercy for Corruption.”
  • Aggressive moral framing.
  • Signals accountability, justice, and zero tolerance.
🔥 “Before They Destroy It All.”
  • Implies total collapse if action is not taken immediately.
  • Deep fear appeal plus collective call to arms.
🔥 “Fight Back or Lose Everything.”
  • Maximizes fear, urgency, and aggression.
  • Binary choice framing (fight vs. total loss).
🔥 “They Won’t Stop. Neither Will We.”
  • Highlights relentless opposition threat while asserting unbreakable resistance.
  • Rhythmic, chant-friendly, and defiant.

ChatGPT, I’m not impressed. Maybe I’ll try Claude, later, or play with the inputs. Of note, ChatGPT adds the stupid emojis.
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Agree. Those aren’t hitting the right notes in the right order. They’re not hopey-changey enough
 
Kingpin said:
I’m now very worried about Medicaid assistance for our young adult son who depends on it to live independently with Medicaid-paid caregivers.
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My understanding of the Medicaid changes is that you have to a) be working and b) if able, be actively trying to find work.

If true, what is the issue with that?
 
ZenMode said:
My understanding of the Medicaid changes is that you have to a) be working and b) if able, be actively trying to find work.

If true, what is the issue with that?
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In home heath caregivers are likely to lose Medicaid funding. The people who allow him to live independently. If he loses that he will move back into our home. He’s in his 20s. We are pushing 70. What happens when we die?
 
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ZenMode said:
My understanding of the Medicaid changes is that you have to a) be working and b) if able, be actively trying to find work.

If true, what is the issue with that?
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Many of those affected live in dying towns or rural communities and there are no jobs to be found.
 
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