U.S. Budget & OBBB | OCT 1 - Gov’t Shutdown Begins

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Kingpin said:
My wife manages our 26 yo disabled son’s Medicaid approval/waivers. He’s unable to work. What this video shows is absolutely true. She was valedictorian of her HS and was a Presidents scholar at Ga Tech (equivalent to a Morehead) and graduated with an engineering degree with a 3.96 GPA. She works in IT and is computer savvy. Despite this background, the most difficult and frustrating/stressful challenge in her life is filling out the Medicaid forms and dealing with annual paperwork and the people whose job is to administer the Medicaid benefits. She spends countless hours on the phone every year at renewal and sometimes is denied for unspecified reasons and she fights hard to get it back.
If she struggles, how difficult must it be for the millions without her background and experience? And it will only get worse-assuming we keep Medicaid for him at all.
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The answer to the problem of documentation that is impossible to complete doesn’t mean we should even think about fixing the underlying issue.
Or so I was told.
 
I don't feel super strongly about this but I think Jeffries' six-hour filibuster is probably at least a little counterproductive. People will be checking out for the holiday weekend by early afternoon today. I think I'd rather have news that the bill passed dominating the news cycle right now, because very few people will hear anything else about it until Monday at the earliest. But whatever. Politicians love to hear themselves speak, even if they're the good guys.
 
lawtig02 said:
I don't feel super strongly about this but I think Jeffries' six-hour filibuster is probably at least a little counterproductive. People will be checking out for the holiday weekend by early afternoon today. I think I'd rather have news that the bill passed dominating the news cycle right now, because very few people will hear anything else about it until Monday at the earliest. But whatever. Politicians love to hear themselves speak, even if they're the good guys.
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Jeffries should make it 36 hrs so the Pubs and Trump miss their 4th of July deadline
 
Kingpin said:
Jeffries should make it 36 hrs so the Pubs and Trump miss their 4th of July deadline
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Yeah, I guess that's the other alternative. But in reality, it will pass this afternoon and maybe 0.2% of the country will be paying attention.
 
lawtig02 said:
I don't feel super strongly about this but I think Jeffries' six-hour filibuster is probably at least a little counterproductive. People will be checking out for the holiday weekend by early afternoon today. I think I'd rather have news that the bill passed dominating the news cycle right now, because very few people will hear anything else about it until Monday at the earliest. But whatever. Politicians love to hear themselves speak, even if they're the good guys.
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Ok, I withdraw my objection and I feel bad I read this so wrong initially. I get what Jeffries is doing now. This is not grandstanding. This is protest. I should have seen it before now, if for no other reason than the thread a week or so ago about the black voice in America as prophetic. I'm now seeing Jeffries standing up there with almost all black faces behind him, cheering him on, giving him encouragement, giving voice to the tens, maybe 100+ million Americans who will be kneecapped by this bill.

Keep going, my friend. At some point, you'll sit down and the bill will pass. But just as Daniel did not relent when every common sense analysis told him he should, you shouldn't either. This story may never be told, but I'll remember it.
 

Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries has set a record for the longest floor speech in modern history of the US House of Representatives as he speaks at length in protest against President Donald Trump’s sweeping domestic policy bill.

Then-House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy previously set the record in 2021.

Launching into marathon remarks at 4:53 a.m. ET, the New York Democrat spoke for hours from two separate binders, sharing stories from Americans who will be impacted by historic cuts to the Medicaid program and other provisions in the GOP megabill.

Jeffries spoke slowly, taking long pauses between words and phrases.

He used a legislative tool called the “magic minute,” which allows party leaders in the House to speak as long as they wish on the floor.

In November 2021, McCarthy spoke for 8 hours and 32 minutes, delaying a vote on then-President Joe Biden’s plan to dramatically expand the social safety net. Trump issued a statement at the time praising McCarthy for his speech.

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Hi, God, It's me, Margaret. If it's not too much trouble, could I ask you to please send MAGA into the nether reaches of hell to be endlessly fucked to oblivion? TIA.
 
lawtig02 said:
I don't feel super strongly about this but I think Jeffries' six-hour filibuster is probably at least a little counterproductive. People will be checking out for the holiday weekend by early afternoon today.
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I don't think the Pubs can possibly hide a bill of this magnitude, nor do they want to. It's not as if we're going to stop talking about this issue.
 
superrific said:
I don't think the Pubs can possibly hide a bill of this magnitude, nor do they want to. It's not as if we're going to stop talking about this issue.
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They don't need to hide anything. Their voters have permission to believe anything that feels good, and Rs will offer them plenty of familiar targets for their anger over any pain caused by this bill.
 
I could be talked out of this, but I'm modestly in favor of a constitutional amendment that would make only ER doctors and nurses eligible to vote for federal office holders.
 
TangledUpInBlue06 said:
It's about to pass. Strap in for drive-by gloating, because some people's only joy comes from seeing liberals upset.
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You think they'll defend it? The contours of the bill have been known for weeks now but our House Pubs have been conspicuously absent. Why would they show up now when they've been sitting on their dicks for the last few weeks?

To be fair to you, I have no doubt they'll show up to gloat. But it won't be to defend the bill on its merits. It will only be Team A > Team B. And there are two reasons for that. (1) They have no idea how the bill could be defended on its merits, and (2) Nothing matters except a "win" over Team B.

So congrats, Team A. You bought the farm. Let's see what it produces over the next few months.
 
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