U.S. Budget & OBBB | OCT 1 - Gov’t Shutdown Begins

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Ramrouser said:
The Summer of Trump!

Passage of the OBBB
147k jobs report for June
Gas LOW
Stock market HIGH
Unemployment DOWN
CBS settlement - 8 figures
Iran/Israel cease fire.
5% NATO agreements
Trade deals with Vietnam and China.
Supreme Court wins
Border closed - Alligator Alcatraz open

…and still 2 months to go.
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1. You should my thread "Teachers." It's a dive into the job numbers. Suffice it to say, between 70-90K of those 147K jobs are illusory gains. In August they will reverse.

2. The CBS settlement is a bad thing. You think it's good for the United States for the president to be suing media companies, and not even trying to win on the merits. They strongarmed a settlement by threatening to block a merger between private parties. Could you explain how this is a good thing at all? Even if you think somehow the 60 Minutes interview was wrongly edited, surely you don't think that's a good thing?

3. There are no trade deals. None. Trump has just told Vietnam to charge more money for the products we buy from them. Winning!

4. When everything goes to shit, as it surely will because it's already heading that way, are you going to admit you were wrong this whole time?
 
nycfan said:
The Republicans were sure to bury some of the more impactful cuts so they kick in after the ‘26 election …

Here’s When Medicaid Cuts Could Begin After House Passes Trump’s Megabill​


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Medicaid Cuts Could Take Effect In 2026, Experts Say

With over $1 trillion in health care cuts on the table, states could begin feeling the effects of President Donald Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill” as early as 2026.
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The NC state legislature won't "rethink their Medicaid financing strategies" - they'll just cut whatever gets cut and those Medicaid patients will be cut off. Nice and simple and cruel, which fits this legislature perfectly. Does anyone seriously think they're going to add funding to make up for what's cut by the feds and take away money from vouchers or corporate benefits or Phil Berger's other pet projects? And everything else that Trump 2.0 is cutting - such as federal funding for public ed - won't be replaced by the state legislature either. They'll just dump all of that on local districts and tell them to deal with it. And that's likely to happen in nearly every red state.
 
Kingpin said:
My wife manages our 26 yo disabled son’s Medicaid approval/waivers. He’s unable to work. What this video shows is absolutely true. She was valedictorian of her HS and was a Presidents scholar at Ga Tech (equivalent to a Morehead) and graduated with an engineering degree with a 3.96 GPA. She works in IT and is computer savvy. Despite this background, the most difficult and frustrating/stressful challenge in her life is filling out the Medicaid forms and dealing with annual paperwork and the people whose job is to administer the Medicaid benefits. She spends countless hours on the phone every year at renewal and sometimes is denied for unspecified reasons and she fights hard to get it back.
If she struggles, how difficult must it be for the millions without her background and experience? And it will only get worse-assuming we keep Medicaid for him at all.
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It's been a while so I may be mixing up some of this with SSI vs Medicaid requirements but they pretty much go hand in hand with each other. It still shows some of the ridiculous hoops people are required to jump through to get and maintain said benefits.

Several years ago I helped my aunt apply and then get recertified every year for Medicaid in KY, and the paperwork/contact with administration workers was just as you described - a difficult and frustrating/stressful challenge.

A couple of the requirements to receive Medicaid then included - Couldn't have more than $2,000 in savings and couldn't own a vehicle valued over $5,000 (pretty sure there was at least an exception for handicapped equipped vehicles). If someone "gifted" you some money to help you out..., it was required that you report it.

The most ridiculous thing to ever hold up her rectification processes - a $17.50 rebate check she deposited once and it got flagged during their review of her bank statements. That resulted in a nearly 2 month lapse in coverage until she could get a copy of said check to them and then them getting back around to reviewing it.

If you needed/wanted a more reliable vehicle, good luck selling your current vehicle and staying under the $2,000 maximum savings requirement until you can find a new vehicle (that is unless you were dead broke and the vehicle you were selling was a complete pos). The always under valued vehicle car lot trade-in worked to avoid that but then you still had to report that you had changed vehicles and provide proof of its value...
 
superrific said:
1. You should my thread "Teachers." It's a dive into the job numbers. Suffice it to say, between 70-90K of those 147K jobs are illusory gains. In August they will reverse.

2. The CBS settlement is a bad thing. You think it's good for the United States for the president to be suing media companies, and not even trying to win on the merits. They strongarmed a settlement by threatening to block a merger between private parties. Could you explain how this is a good thing at all? Even if you think somehow the 60 Minutes interview was wrongly edited, surely you don't think that's a good thing?

3. There are no trade deals. None. Trump has just told Vietnam to charge more money for the products we buy from them. Winning!

4. When everything goes to shit, as it surely will because it's already heading that way, are you going to admit you were wrong this whole time?
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He said it was the summer of Trump, not the summer of America. And I’m pretty sure Trump thinks it is a good thing CBS is paying him $16 million for a frivolous case.
 
superrific said:
1. You should my thread "Teachers." It's a dive into the job numbers. Suffice it to say, between 70-90K of those 147K jobs are illusory gains. In August they will reverse.

2. The CBS settlement is a bad thing. You think it's good for the United States for the president to be suing media companies, and not even trying to win on the merits. They strongarmed a settlement by threatening to block a merger between private parties. Could you explain how this is a good thing at all? Even if you think somehow the 60 Minutes interview was wrongly edited, surely you don't think that's a good thing?

3. There are no trade deals. None. Trump has just told Vietnam to charge more money for the products we buy from them. Winning!

4. When everything goes to shit, as it surely will because it's already heading that way, are you going to admit you were wrong this whole time?
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CBS tried to help their girl Kamala by selecting editing their interview by trying to promote that she had intelligent thoughts on why she had thoughts on the Israeli/Hamas conflict.
 

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Trump's signature policy bill adjusts work requirements for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, the country's largest nutrition assistance program.

  • In order to keep their benefits under the Senate-passed version of the bill, parents of children aged 14 or older would have to meet work requirements. The bill also bumps the work requirement age up to 64.
  • Currently, SNAP's requirements for able-bodied adults without dependents apply to those between 18 and 54.
  • It could also force some states to shoulder more benefit costs, the rate of which would be set by a state's percent of erroneous payments. Benefits are currently 100% federally funded, though states share administrative costs.
Threat level: Medicaid and food aid cuts could also lead to job losses and hits to state GDPs, Axios' Alex Fitzpatrick writes.

Zoom out: In March 2025, more than 42 million Americans participated in SNAP, according to initial USDA data.

  • The program provides crucial support for families with low-paying jobs, low-income older adults, people with disabilities and others.
  • According to a CBPP analysis of FY 2024 USDA data, more than 62% of SNAP participants are in families with children, and more than 38% are in working families.
  • New Mexico has the largest share participating in SNAP, with some 21% of the population helped by the program, according to preliminary March data.



By the numbers: The bill would reduce nutrition funding, which includes SNAP, by around $186 billion between 2025 and 2034.

  • While analyst's projections have fluctuated as the legislation's provisions are tweaked, analysts have indicated millions of people could be cut from SNAP under the work requirement provisions.
  • CBPP points to a CBO indication that more than 2 million people would be cut from SNAP under the work requirement provision.
  • While the CBPP notes that revised legislation released June 25 slightly modified several SNAP provisions in the reconciliation plan, it still says more than 5 million people live in households at risk of losing at least some food assistance.
 
^ also SNAP funding goes down just as food prices will for sure rise thanks to inflation from tariffs and the result of the immigrant hunts that ICE will be insanely funded to carry out.
 
The bill allows whaling captains to deduct up to $50,000 of whaling-related expenses on their taxes. The previous limit was $10,000. The bill also carves out a tax exemption for fishers from western Alaskan villages.



Both these provisions were added to the bill to win the support of Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska.
 
altmin said:

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Trump's signature policy bill adjusts work requirements for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, the country's largest nutrition assistance program.

  • In order to keep their benefits under the Senate-passed version of the bill, parents of children aged 14 or older would have to meet work requirements. The bill also bumps the work requirement age up to 64.
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The Senate version of the budget bill includes provisions impacting parents of children under 14, particularly in relation to Medicaid and the Child Tax Credit. The bill would exempt parents of children under 14 from certain work requirements to maintain Medicaid eligibility.
Additionally, it would increase the Child Tax Credit to $2,200 per child, but with potential limitations on its benefit for lower-income families.

Medicaid and Work Requirements:
The bill would require able-bodied adults, including parents, to work 80 hours per month to maintain Medicaid eligibility, but parents of children under 14 would be exempt.

This exemption for parents of young children is a point of contention, with some arguing it is necessary for childcare reasons and others criticizing it for potentially creating a disincentive to work.

Child Tax Credit:
The bill would increase the Child Tax Credit from $2,000 to $2,200 per child.
However, it would also impose stricter requirements, potentially limiting the full benefit for lower-income families.
One key change is the requirement that both parents must have a Social Security number for their child to be eligible for the full credit, which could exclude some families.
 

The Big, Beautiful Bill's Ugly Future for Rural Health Care​

The sacrifices the legislation imposes on struggling communities don't improve the financial health of our nation.


The bill that just passed the Senate means more uncompensated care, and it harms one of the few funding streams states have for keeping struggling hospitals afloat. In the House version, Medicaid spending in rural areas will decline by as much as $119 billion (or 15%) over 10 years, including a loss of $50.4 billion in Medicaid funding for rural hospitals at a time when nearly half have already been operating at a financial loss. The Senate bill's inclusion of a $50 billion rural hospital fund won’t address this shortfall. More closures will be inevitable.


Despite arguments that work requirements for Medicaid get people back to work, when Arkansas tried to apply a similar policy at the state level in 2018, it saw nearly 17,000 lose coverage, with no increase in employment. What did increase in Arkansas? Medical debt, something most Americans fear and that is essentially nonexistent in other advanced countries.
 
So Trump runs off to Iowa to have his celebration rally? Guess the farmers there haven't figured tariffs out yet.
 
altmin said:

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www.axios.com

Trump's signature policy bill adjusts work requirements for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, the country's largest nutrition assistance program.

  • In order to keep their benefits under the Senate-passed version of the bill, parents of children aged 14 or older would have to meet work requirements. The bill also bumps the work requirement age up to 64.
  • Currently, SNAP's requirements for able-bodied adults without dependents apply to those between 18 and 54.
  • It could also force some states to shoulder more benefit costs, the rate of which would be set by a state's percent of erroneous payments. Benefits are currently 100% federally funded, though states share administrative costs.
Threat level: Medicaid and food aid cuts could also lead to job losses and hits to state GDPs, Axios' Alex Fitzpatrick writes.

Zoom out: In March 2025, more than 42 million Americans participated in SNAP, according to initial USDA data.

  • The program provides crucial support for families with low-paying jobs, low-income older adults, people with disabilities and others.
  • According to a CBPP analysis of FY 2024 USDA data, more than 62% of SNAP participants are in families with children, and more than 38% are in working families.
  • New Mexico has the largest share participating in SNAP, with some 21% of the population helped by the program, according to preliminary March data.



By the numbers: The bill would reduce nutrition funding, which includes SNAP, by around $186 billion between 2025 and 2034.

  • While analyst's projections have fluctuated as the legislation's provisions are tweaked, analysts have indicated millions of people could be cut from SNAP under the work requirement provisions.
  • CBPP points to a CBO indication that more than 2 million people would be cut from SNAP under the work requirement provision.
  • While the CBPP notes that revised legislation released June 25 slightly modified several SNAP provisions in the reconciliation plan, it still says more than 5 million people live in households at risk of losing at least some food assistance.
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Shouldn’t we at some point try to return spending on SNAP to non-emergency levels, with some adjustment for inflation?

Biden greatly expanded the program as a part of our recovery plan. When can we ask for that back? As is, the cuts in this plan only claw back about half of what it was increased by Biden ( was 300 billion over 10, now 150 over 10).
 
Purple Nurple said:
Shouldn’t we at some point try to return spending on SNAP to non-emergency levels, with some adjustment for inflation?

Biden greatly expanded the program as a part of our recovery plan. When can we ask for that back? As is, the cuts in this plan only claw back about half of what it was increased by Biden ( was 300 billion over 10, now 150 over 10).
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Let the rich give their taxes breaks back first before we take food out of the poor people's mouths. I'd rather feed a person who might not need it than starve one that does. That's what Jesus would do. I'm betting he didn't means test when he fed the multitude.
 
Purple Nurple said:
Shouldn’t we at some point try to return spending on SNAP to non-emergency levels, with some adjustment for inflation?

Biden greatly expanded the program as a part of our recovery plan. When can we ask for that back? As is, the cuts in this plan only claw back about half of what it was increased by Biden ( was 300 billion over 10, now 150 over 10).
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I don't have the facts in front of me-but I have seen various articles over the years that SNAP benefits lag considerably over the decades when compared to inflation And that was before the considerable inflation of groceries the last year or two
 
Purple Nurple said:
Shouldn’t we at some point try to return spending on SNAP to non-emergency levels, with some adjustment for inflation?

Biden greatly expanded the program as a part of our recovery plan. When can we ask for that back? As is, the cuts in this plan only claw back about half of what it was increased by Biden ( was 300 billion over 10, now 150 over 10).
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It was a one time increase in benefits to accommodate the increase in cost and adjust for inflation. This wasn't an "emergency level" increase. He didn't "expand" the program. They also altered what was covered and by how much. Your post seems to imply people are 1) receiving too much and 2) that people are using the program who should not have access to this aid. Neither case is accurate.

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The best thing that Joe Biden did

The administration’s biggest achievement is something that almost no one has heard about.
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Stacy Dean, who served as deputy undersecretary for USDA’s Food, Nutrition, and Consumer Services from 2021 to 2024, explained to me that her team’s efforts to reform the Thrifty Food Plan were authorized by the 2018 Farm Bill, passed by a Republican Congress and signed by Donald Trump. Section 4002 of the law stated that the Department of Agriculture should “by 2022 and at 5-year intervals thereafter … reevaluate and publish the market baskets of the thrifty food plan based on current food prices, food composition data, consumption patterns, and dietary guidance.”

The team was thus instructed that the Thrifty Food Plan had to reflect how people actually ate (“consumption patterns”) and the foods they actually chose (“food composition data”), rather than assuming that poor Americans subsist largely on giant tubs of yogurt, or oatmeal and beans.
The administration concluded that complying with that instruction meant the total cost of the Thrifty Food Plan could not stay the same. It was not possible to accurately reflect the actual cost of food and notincrease the cost of the plan.
 
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