U.S. Budget & OBBB | OCT 1 - Gov’t Shutdown Begins

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The House and Senate are doing a SPECTACULAR job of working together as one unified, and unbeatable, TEAM, however, unlike the Lindsey Graham version of the very important Legislation currently being discussed, the House Resolution implements my FULL America First Agenda, EVERYTHING, not just parts of it! We need both Chambers to pass the House Budget to "kickstart" the Reconciliation process, and move all of our priorities to the concept of, "ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL." It will, without question, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
 
nycfan said:


The House and Senate are doing a SPECTACULAR job of working together as one unified, and unbeatable, TEAM, however, unlike the Lindsey Graham version of the very important Legislation currently being discussed, the House Resolution implements my FULL America First Agenda, EVERYTHING, not just parts of it! We need both Chambers to pass the House Budget to "kickstart" the Reconciliation process, and move all of our priorities to the concept of, "ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL." It will, without question, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
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Trump said last night in his interview with Co-President Musk and Sean Hannity that there would be no cuts to SS, Medicare or Medicaid, but the House bill he just endorsed proposes $880 Billion in cuts to such programs (most assume that would come almost entirely out of Medicaid, though that figure exceeds the federal portion of the entire Medicaid annual budget).
 
nycfan said:


The House and Senate are doing a SPECTACULAR job of working together as one unified, and unbeatable, TEAM, however, unlike the Lindsey Graham version of the very important Legislation currently being discussed, the House Resolution implements my FULL America First Agenda, EVERYTHING, not just parts of it! We need both Chambers to pass the House Budget to "kickstart" the Reconciliation process, and move all of our priorities to the concept of, "ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL." It will, without question, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
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One Republican’s “waste” is another man’s medication.
 
We have finally reached the point at which Trump can claim that he's not cutting Medicaid and Medicare, they cut it to the bone anyway, and his supporters will actually still believe him when he said he wasn't cutting it. He can now lie as much as he wants and his base will just sit there and smile and nod in adoration and agreement. And if anyone disagrees or tries to tell them the truth they'll just yell "scoreboard!" or "MAGA" and think that everything will be OK.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
We have finally reached the point at which Trump can claim that he's not cutting Medicaid and Medicare, they cut it to the bone anyway, and his supporters will actually still believe him when he said he wasn't cutting it. He can now lie as much as he wants and his base will just sit there and smile and nod in adoration and agreement. And if anyone disagrees or tries to tell them the truth they'll just yell "scoreboard!" or "MAGA" and think that everything will be OK.
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Dont forget FAKE NEWS
 
nrsair said:

Never thought I’d see the day.
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Politics Post in thread 'Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)'

nycfan said:
Conceptually, I've got no beef with a legitimate audit of DoD spending, or recalibrating spending to modernize and/or to adjust to administration priorities (even though I think the Trump priorities seem to be written by Putin and a toddler, which is something I very much object to). What Hegseth outlines seems like a more normal-ish approach than DOGE slash and burn, fire everyone now and ask questions later. Not clear how the two policies will coordinate/overlap etc. but why would it be clear when everyone is shooting from the hip?

But Hegseth toeing this line is going to piss off...
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nycfan said:
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Politics Post in thread 'Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)'

nycfan said:
Conceptually, I've got no beef with a legitimate audit of DoD spending, or recalibrating spending to modernize and/or to adjust to administration priorities (even though I think the Trump priorities seem to be written by Putin and a toddler, which is something I very much object to). What Hegseth outlines seems like a more normal-ish approach than DOGE slash and burn, fire everyone now and ask questions later. Not clear how the two policies will coordinate/overlap etc. but why would it be clear when everyone is shooting from the hip?

But Hegseth toeing this line is going to piss off...
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I always figure that only a Republican President could get away with cuts to the military (Dems would get slaughtered for being soft on defense). Still very skeptical...Hesgeth is not an administrator or a cost cutter...and I can see them reversing field very easily.

I have a prediction that he US deficit will be larger by the time Trump leaves office. He will do cosmetic cost cutting, but his tax policy will exacerbate the deficit ...and he will get cheered for that.
 
CRHeel94 said:
I always figure that only a Republican President could get away with cuts to the military (Dems would get slaughtered for being soft on defense). Still very skeptical...Hesgeth is not an administrator or a cost cutter...and I can see them reversing field very easily.

I have a prediction that he US deficit will be larger by the time Trump leaves office. He will do cosmetic cost cutting, but his tax policy will exacerbate the deficit ...and he will get cheered for that.
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It's the Republican way. I think first term, it was around 6 trillion, some because of Covid but most was tax cuts and defense spending.
 
The key problem is increasing wealth and income inequality over the last 45 years. The pie is growing but much too disproportinally in favor of the wealthy. Tax cuts like those from Reagan, both Bushes and Trump 1 have been skewed to give most to upper income people and that has a compounding wealthy effet on inequality. Giving tax breals tp large corps doot creat jobs nor bnoost most worker salaries: the tax cuts go to stock buybacks adn dividends whjch mostly benefit the wealthy,

Middle/working class incomes have been stagnant for 45 years pwion to above and offshoring starting back in the 1980s.

Quit doing multi-trillinon tax breaks for wealthy and large corps and inseated use that money for:
1) infrastructure
2) funding child care which would also make it possible for families to have more kids if they wish
3) Restart the child tax crecit for low and worklng class families which Biden and Romnety did
4) Fortive more student loans
5) Make twp uears of technical/vopcational college free univeraly
6) make the ACA health care more affordable for middle class by raising the benefit limits

Tax breasks for rich==bad. they are doing fine
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Faucette said:
He is so FOS. No money has come in yet, just says what people want to hear
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And yet half the country still believes him. And that's why we are where we are today. If he told them the sky was green they'd really believe it, or convince themselves that it's the truth. If he says it or they hear it from Fox or Newsmax or some other right-wing source then it is taken as the gospel truth.
 
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