U.S. Budget & OBBB | OCT 1 - Gov’t Shutdown Begins

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Ramrouser said:
You're correct that a bar license does not meet the technical definition of property since it is subject to revocation by the State Bar and is non transferrable. In your hypothetical, however, you were speaking about the State arbitrarily seizing my license due to my political beliefs not aligning with a future Democratic governor in Georgia. So I was referring to my license as property in a broader sense in that it allows me to generate income and the State arbitrarily seizing my license would be depriving me of income. This would not be a revocation due to my violating any ethical or professional obligations of the State Bar but a seizure of an asset without compensation.
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1. But it's not an asset. I mean, you just said so yourself in your first sentence. That's not a "technical definition" of property. That is almost the whole definition. It's an "asset" only because the state has extended you due process -- the same due process you would gleefully strip from others. It is mind boggling that you can't keep your logic straight even over the course of four sentences. I guess I just have higher standards. To paraphrase Scalia, I would hide my head in a bag for a year if I was writing such egregiously illogical paragraphs.

2. Arbitrarily seizing your license would deprive you of income? What do you think an arbitrary firing of a career civil servant does? Your post couldn't be a clearer endorsement of your guiding principle of: "what is good for me, is good. What is bad for me, is bad." And that is why people find you so loathsome. You would complain bloody murder about people doing to you what you gleefully celebrate being done to them.

3. Actually, I don't care about the Democratic governor. I just want your state to be reconstructed. And I don't want to take away your bar license. I've just been using that as a prime example of your hypocrisy. I know you don't care about that, but really lawyers should care. If the profession is seen as just hypocrites, it wouldn't be much of a profession. If you only support rule of law when it's convenient for you, then you are abandoning your ethical duty.

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nycfan said:
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What’s the difference if the meme is promulgated by a random teenager or the president of the USA? It’s the same thing!

That being said, when Trump acts this way, I do think the better response from democrats is an eye roll and a quick note about how it is just further proof the leaders of the GOP act like petulant children and can’t be taken seriously, and leave it at that.
 
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“… They didn’t even bother to bring it up—because the cameras weren’t rolling.

But then they go out to their press conferences, where we can’t fact-check them in real time, and keep trying to spout that lie. The American people aren’t buying it.”

Trump says they were respectful in his office and then talk like crazy people when they leave. Did they spend the whole time talking about his redecorating?
 
superrific said:
Most words that accurately describe her aren't suitable for polite company.

She reminds me of Sarah Palin, in that she can't process the question so that every answer is the same: [some Democrat] created this problem.
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she may actually make Sarah Huckabee likeable in comparison.
 
heelinhell said:
Russ Vought told you what was going to happen once Project 2025 was implemented. The goal is to "traumatize" civil servants and make them so miserable they will quit which will reduce the size of government. He is gleeful that there is a government shutdown.

Apparently, you are unaware of what civil servants do. They help all of us every single day...so making them miserable will make all of us miserable over time. It might be helpful if you read The Untold Story of Public Service by Michael Lewis.

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I am quite aware of what civil servants do. I have had numerous interactions with civil servants, contracted with civil servants, had neighbors that are civil servants, and one of my best friends works for the fed g'ment. So I like to think that my knowledge of what civil servants do and how the g'ment conducts business is at least informed. Many of my opinions about a bloated fed g'ment were formed by talking directly with them, especially my good friend who tells me stories of how overstaffed and inefficient his agency is. As well, after making a living in the corporate world implementing concepts like 6 sigma and lean mfg, I know that we could lop off 25% of the fed workforce and not miss a beat, and then start to get serious about improving the efficiency of the fed g'ment. My issue is not that trump is going to take this opportunity to make cuts, its the way the cuts are going to be made. Cutting overhead is great but if not done strategically it can make things worse than when it was overstaffed and inefficient. The dems are about to FAFO out of fear of pissing off the left flank. AOC apparently is way more influential within the dem party than I realized. Deferring to her is a huge mistake.
 
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