U.S. Budget & OBBB | OCT 1 - Gov’t Shutdown Begins

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I don't think we know yet, and probably won't know for a while, which party will be blamed for the shutdown. In the past, the party in control has generally been blamed, regardless of what role the out-of-power party played. That said, shutdowns have now become so common that I'm not convinced the general public really blames either party for them. It just further erodes Americans' already extremely low view of the government in general. The Pubs are definitely better at the rhetorical game (largely because they lie with absolute impunity), but it's not clear how important that rhetoric is on things like this.

What Americans WILL care about and respond to are things like health insurance premiums going up by hundreds or thousands of dollars, government agencies shutting down and therefore not being available to help with whatever people might need, flights being delayed because air traffic controllers are calling in sick rather than working for no pay, etc. And that's a messaging battle the Dems certainly should be able to win. If they can't, we're just fucked.
 
I think they're actually starting to get desperate, which I didn't believe would happen. I've read in several places today that Trump has been trying to secretly contact Democrats about ending the shutdown, which I can believe (of course Trump would deny it publicly). Or maybe he's just lying as usual and saying this - but he would only say something like this if he was getting worried about a public backlash to him and his party (mostly him). And as we've seen with his TACO tariffs he'll fold like a house of cards if he thinks he might get damaged in any way. I'm not saying at all that this will end well for Democrats, but I do think Trump and Republicans are starting to show some signs of nervousness and strain and worry the longer this goes.

I also think that Trump and Republicans didn't think that Democrats would hold out this long, which also probably has them worried.
 
I think they're actually starting to get desperate, which I didn't believe would happen. I've read in several places today that Trump has been trying to secretly contact Democrats about ending the shutdown, which I can believe (of course Trump would deny it publicly). Or maybe he's just lying as usual and saying this - but he would only say something like this if he was getting worried about a public backlash to him and his party (mostly him). And as we've seen with his TACO tariffs he'll fold like a house of cards if he thinks he might get damaged in any way. I'm not saying at all that this will end well for Democrats, but I do think Trump and Republicans are starting to show some signs of nervousness and strain and worry the longer this goes.

I also think that Trump and Republicans didn't think that Democrats would hold out this long, which also probably has them worried.
It's the air traffic controllers.

Just like the last shutdown, the Dem had all the leverage all along. It's pretty simple really, once air traffic starts causing nation wide delays, the game is up. This is precisely true because all the private jets of all the billionaires are equally affected. Billionaires won't stand for a world in which their freedom to jet about willy-nilly is constrained even for a moment. So they turn the screws on whoever is in charge. Who is in charge? The Republicans. Dems win. It is, and has always been that simple. Most everything else you've seen about the shutdown is theater for the unwashed masses.

EDIT: And take note: The Libertarian Billionaire class are all about using the federal government to provide a common good, as long as it's one that they rely on heavily and the is no private option to buy it. But you can go fuck yourself if you require a common good and they don't really need it because they have enough wealth to just buy the substitute.
 
MTG has escaped the asylum and is making trouble for her keepers

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This is the EXACT issue that Republicans seem to think they are losing traction over in this shutdown fight — since a GOP conference call this past weekend, from Trump down through GOP Congressional leadership have shared a talking point that it is the GOP that is really trying to “fix healthcare”. They are pretty clearly aware that is the opposite of what Americans currently think about them.

And here comes MTG to stomp all over the messaging in her own deranged style, apparently mainly because her own adult kids will be directly impacted.

I would ask whether she is on drugs due to the whiplash statements in her post, but probably the more salient question is did they change her meds after the 2024 election?
 


[Actually Johnson talking about Trump] : “we had big portion of the One Big Beautiful Bill the uh working families tax cut that addressed the fraud waste and abuse in Medicaid and some of the other programs and we are bringing ideas forward to make sure that we reduce the cost of healthcare … [Trump] wants to be the healthcare president as he is on all these other matters and he’s the one to do it, so we have lots of ideas. There are some Democrats believe it or not … they want to get out of this trap and they are bringing us ideas on things that we might be able to uh resolve …”
 
MTG has escaped the asylum and is making trouble for her keepers

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This is the EXACT issue that Republicans seem to think they are losing traction over in this shutdown fight — since a GOP conference call this past weekend, from Trump down through GOP Congressional leadership have shared a talking point that it is the GOP that is really trying to “fix healthcare”. They are pretty clearly aware that is the opposite of what Americans currently think about them.

And here comes MTG to stomp all over the messaging in her own deranged style, apparently mainly because her own adult kids will be directly impacted.

I would ask whether she is on drugs due to the whiplash statements in her post, but probably the more salient question is did they change her meds after the 2024 election?
MTG is indirectly making a great case for single payer here! Republicans have had 15+ years to come up with a free-market solution that lowers insurance premiums without destroying care and they haven't because it simply isn't possible. Hate insurance? Want lower premiums? Single payer is the only answer.
 
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