U.S. Budget & OBBB | OCT 1 - Gov’t Shutdown Begins

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WTH are the PROTESTORS, NOW? The Trump 2.0 Episode - 26 Hours in Iran has distracted everyone.

The Senate bill will KILL our R&D engine, responsible for 60% of new job creation since WW II. The deficit spending with the BANK ROBBERY for billionaires will cripple our economy long term.

Dems are not fighting hard enough. They think this irresponsible appropriations bill will help them in 2026. Their arrogance and fecklessness is infuriating.

Pubs are voting against the best interest of their constituents, especially in the red states. Our son is crossing the last t and dotting the last i on his dissertation in engineering, but job prospects are in Canada.

Trump, MAGA, and Project 2025 are disassembling the American science, education, and innovation infrastructure that made the US the #1 economy/capita.
 
nycfan said:


T(hom)ACO — prove me wrong, Sen. Tillis.
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I'll be surprised if the GOP doesn't get enough votes (50) for this to pass. On how many occasions in Trump's two terms have "moderate" Senate Republicans come through in the crunch to stop these terrible bills from passing? There aren't any real "moderates" among Senate Republicans anymore, and hasn't been for awhile. Thune will likely get enough votes to ram it through.
 
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Sucks this bill is going to pass but perhaps it’s for the best. It’s going to screw all of us, of course, but it’s really going to royally fuck a whole bunch of dimwit MAGAts and red staters with no lube. It sucks that it’s going to hurt a whole bunch of innocent people who did not vote for this, but perhaps it’s going to take truly hurting the morons who voted for cronyism and authoritarianism for them to realize how stupid and shortsighted they were. Many will never realize it (or care) of course, even as their jobs, healthcare, insurance, disability, veterans benefits, and food stamps are stripped away. But some will.
 
CFordUNC said:
Sucks this bill is going to pass but perhaps it’s for the best. It’s going to screw all of us, of course, but it’s really going to royally fuck a whole bunch of dimwit MAGAts and red staters with no lube. It sucks that it’s going to hurt a whole bunch of innocent people who did not vote for this, but perhaps it’s going to take truly hurting the morons who voted for cronyism and authoritarianism for them to realize how stupid and shortsighted they were. Many will never realize it (or care) of course, even as their jobs, healthcare, insurance, disability, veterans benefits, and food stamps are stripped away. But some will.
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When Trump and Heritage 2025 fucks the MAGAts, they’ll blame the Deep State, Libtards, and immigrants.
 
Duke Mu said:
WTH are the PROTESTORS, NOW? The Trump 2.0 Episode - 26 Hours in Iran has distracted everyone.

The Senate bill will KILL our R&D engine, responsible for 60% of new job creation since WW II. The deficit spending with the BANK ROBBERY for billionaires will cripple our economy long term.

Dems are not fighting hard enough. They think this irresponsible appropriations bill will help them in 2026. Their arrogance and fecklessness is infuriating.

Pubs are voting against the best interest of their constituents, especially in the red states. Our son is crossing the last t and dotting the last i on his dissertation in engineering, but job prospects are in Canada.

Trump, MAGA, and Project 2025 are disassembling the American science, education, and innovation infrastructure that made the US the #1 economy/capita.
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People voted for the collapse of America, why shouldn't they get what they voted for? The Democrats couldn't stop them from committing this folly - they have no power.
 
Zoo_View said:
When Trump and Heritage 2025 fucks the MAGAts, they’ll blame the Deep State, Libtards, and immigrants.
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Of course. Dems need to scream bloody murder about the appropriations bill, and sorry if you folks offended, and put iran, Gaza, Mamadani, gender stuff on the backburner. This Big Bullsh*t Bill is the ballgame. If McConnell were the Dem leader instead of Schumer, he would have found a way to shut it down or compromise.

This is a science and job crusher and a great day for Xi and Putin!
 
altmin said:
People voted for the collapse of America, why shouldn't they get what they voted for? The Democrats couldn't stop them from committing this folly - they have no power.
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The hell they can't. THIS is the case you have to take to the American people. Show that you have their backs, especially the working and middle class. This is the ONLY major piece of legislation on the docket. You find a way.

Dems are feckless and weak. We can't assume they will prevail as milquetoasts in 2026.

This country needs a viable 3rd party.
 
Procedural Bill passes. Dems can have the entire thing read out loud. That may delay things to Monday.

Dems need a No Kings Day 2 tomorrow...or better. No Oligarchs Day! Need a 1000 protests on this bill. It's over 20 points under water in the polls.
 
Duke Mu said:
The hell they can't. THIS is the case you have to take to the American people. Show that you have their backs, especially the working and middle class. This is the ONLY major piece of legislation on the docket. You find a way.

Dems are feckless and weak. We can't assume they will prevail as milquetoasts in 2026.

This country needs a viable 3rd party.
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Find a way to do what?
 
Duke Mu said:
Murkowski sells out.
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as did "troubled and concerned" Susan Collins. She is up for re-election next year. Dems should be doing ads and holding town halls to publicize that she voted for a 4 trillion budget bill that cuts Medicaid and other safety net programs.

Collins, true to form, expressed her concern and said she might not vote for the bill in the end unless some changes are made before the final vote.

There is no doubt in my mind that Susan will vote for the bill without changes but let her constituents know she did so reluctantly and with deep concern.
 
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